Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 21st Mar 2012 23:54 UTC
Games As I made very clear in my thorough review of Mass Effect 2, I'm a huge BioWare fan. This relationship got very, very cloudy when BioWare released Dragon Age II, a rush job with no story and atrocious gameplay. Mass Effect 3 looked like redemption - until I hit the terrible, terrible ending. The criticism of the ending has been so immense and consistent, BioWare is contemplating changing it. Of course, this story is riddled with spoilers, so be warned.
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RE[3]: It's just a game!
by Yagami on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 17:09 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: It's just a game!"
Yagami
Member since:
2006-07-15

"It's the last episode of the trilogy. Unless they plan to pull a starwars on us, pleasing ME3 fans won't attract then to future ME games: there will be none.
Only solution left is paid DLC.

They have said in the past numerous times that they are not done with the IP, just with Shepard as protagonist. They want people to buy Mass Effect: the MMO, and Mass Effect: The First Contact War, or whatever other garbage they churn out. The problem is with ME3 leaving such a sour taste in everyone's mouth that most people will not bother with further ME games unless they fix the ending to this one. Making a free ending DLC would cost them money in the short term, but allow them to make it back in the long term with further projects.
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That is an idiot,lame comment.

You already know what they will do next, and that it will be churned garbage.

And you complain them for making money with other protagonists, but you want them to follow the route of "Sheppard 4, killed the reapers, takes on God Next" and "Sheppard 5, Killed the Gods, takes on Developers Next".

Just finish the damn Sheppard thing.
MGS also finished the story with its protagonist. Does that make that following MGS are churned gargabe ?

Its Sheppard, not Rambo.
Damn.... Hollywood Know-It-All gamers !!!

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RE[4]: It's just a game!
by flynn on Thu 22nd Mar 2012 22:06 in reply to "RE[3]: It's just a game!"
flynn Member since:
2009-03-19


That is an idiot,lame comment.

You already know what they will do next, and that it will be churned garbage.

And you complain them for making money with other protagonists, but you want them to follow the route of "Sheppard 4, killed the reapers, takes on God Next" and "Sheppard 5, Killed the Gods, takes on Developers Next".

Just finish the damn Sheppard thing.
MGS also finished the story with its protagonist. Does that make that following MGS are churned gargabe ?

Its Sheppard, not Rambo.
Damn.... Hollywood Know-It-All gamers !!!

You completely misunderstood my comment.

I was in no way, shape or form advocating for more games staring Shepard. What I was saying is that EA/BioWare want to make more Mass Effect games, but right now the ME brand is damaged and no one will buy them because of how ME3 turned out.

My assertion that future games in the series will be bad is an extrapolation on the current downward trend of BioWare titles. The Mass Effect titles have been getting worse with every iteration, the first one is still the best in the series. Their other properties are going downhill too. Dragon Age 2 was abysmal and The Old Republic was a huge disappointment, a mediocre WoW clone with lightsabers and no content.

Without some major restructuring they will soon join the ranks of other promising studios that met their demise under EA.

Edited 2012-03-22 22:12 UTC

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RE[5]: It's just a game!
by Yagami on Fri 23rd Mar 2012 00:20 in reply to "RE[4]: It's just a game!"
Yagami Member since:
2006-07-15

"
That is an idiot,lame comment.

You already know what they will do next, and that it will be churned garbage.

And you complain them for making money with other protagonists, but you want them to follow the route of "Sheppard 4, killed the reapers, takes on God Next" and "Sheppard 5, Killed the Gods, takes on Developers Next".

Just finish the damn Sheppard thing.
MGS also finished the story with its protagonist. Does that make that following MGS are churned gargabe ?

Its Sheppard, not Rambo.
Damn.... Hollywood Know-It-All gamers !!!

You completely misunderstood my comment.

I was in no way, shape or form advocating for more games staring Shepard. What I was saying is that EA/BioWare want to make more Mass Effect games, but right now the ME brand is damaged and no one will buy them because of how ME3 turned out.

My assertion that future games in the series will be bad is an extrapolation on the current downward trend of BioWare titles. The Mass Effect titles have been getting worse with every iteration, the first one is still the best in the series. Their other properties are going downhill too. Dragon Age 2 was abysmal and The Old Republic was a huge disappointment, a mediocre WoW clone with lightsabers and no content.

Without some major restructuring they will soon join the ranks of other promising studios that met their demise under EA.
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If i missunderstood i am sorry.

I myself dont think the ME brand is damaged. If anything, it proved that it can contain a story that doesnt have rainbows and ponies everywhere. Most other games you can do whatever you like and you still get the end where you are the supreme galaxy commander. Sheppard was a hero... died (maybe) like a hero.

What i didnt really liked is that, ALTHOUGH YOU MAY BE COMPLETLY RIGHT, we cannot judge Bioware for things that will do in the future.

To me, Never Winter Nights was a disappointment, but alot of people liked it.

DA2 really is worse than DA Origins...

I dunno about the latest StarWars,but maybe they do suck.

But making good games is hard, maybe next game will suck, maybe it will not. Bioware also is not a person, its a company. We dont know what is going back stage and in every company there is always black sheep. I guess we just have to pray for games where the black sheep is not in power.

Bottom line : things are not black and white. Lets review each game for what it is and not label them for Money lovers.

Also, ME3 is getting labeled like if it was a crappy game. ME3, to me ( to me, my opinion ) was one of the best games i played ( and unfortunatly, i played alot of them ).

By the way, if Bioware released a "Revenge of the Sheppard" ME game.... i wonder how many "sheppards" would buy it ? i guess it would either flunk or be a mass market effect ;)

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