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RE[6]: Not so fast
by WorknMan on Wed 28th Mar 2012 08:13 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Not so fast"
WorknMan
Member since:
2005-11-13

You mean like the Metro start screen vs. the traditional desktop, neither of which can run each other's programs, in Windows 8?


Yes, that's exactly what he means. Windows 8 is a huge clusterf**k of an OS, and if there was any time for Linux to make some headway, it would be now. Unfortunately, there is no 'Linux'. There's only 900 different distros all competing with each other. If all these distro makers would combine their efforts and make a nice, cohesive experience, where ALL apps work under one or two distros, using ONE desktop environment to rule them all, they could probably carve out a nice chunk of the desktop for themselves. Unfortunately, they either clearly do not want this to happen, or just lack the vision to make it happen.

I don't know what Linux Evangelists expect to happen on the desktop, but whatever the case, they've done little to nothing up to this point, and I don't see any rabbits being pulled out of hats. If MS loses market share to anyone, it'll probably either be to tablets like the iPad, or to OSX. On the desktop, Linux is a joke. A great OS with all kinds of potential, but way too many cooks in the kitchen, and no unified direction whatsoever.

Edited 2012-03-28 08:15 UTC

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RE[7]: Not so fast
by einr on Wed 28th Mar 2012 08:47 in reply to "RE[6]: Not so fast"
einr Member since:
2012-02-15

I had a larger reply going, but I don't think it is worth posting. These are common arguments, and while I can understand them I have a hard time relating to them personally, so I'm just going to address this little gem:

they've done little to nothing up to this point

Really? You're going to claim this? When I started using Linux on the desktop (1998-ish,) it was pretty gosh-darn bad and often looked much like this:

http://fvwm95.sourceforge.net/screenshot-full.gif
http://xwinman.org/screenshots/fvwm95-daBorg.gif

There has been a LOT of progress, and although I personally think some of the newer developments are detrimental (Unity, GNOME 3, the pulseaudio mess), consistency and usability of the Linux desktop now is lightyears beyond what it was even five or ten years ago.

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RE[8]: Not so fast
by jimmy1971 on Wed 28th Mar 2012 17:05 in reply to "RE[7]: Not so fast"
jimmy1971 Member since:
2009-08-27

Lol...!

Thank you for the screenshots! They made me sentimental for my first Linux installation, which would have been Slackware (version 7 if amnesia serves me correct). Considering it was 1998, the shots don't look much/any worse than Win95/98 at the time.

:)

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RE[7]: Not so fast
by Gone fishing on Wed 28th Mar 2012 15:05 in reply to "RE[6]: Not so fast"
Gone fishing Member since:
2006-02-22

Unfortunately, there is no 'Linux'. There's only 900 different distros all competing with each other. If all these distro makers would combine their efforts and make a nice, cohesive experience ...


You really don't seem to get it the distro's are the OSes and Linux a kernel. There is no reason why they should all join together and would be worse off if they did. It is good that you can use Parted Magic for partition/disk management, Ubuntu on the Desktop or Mint or Fedora and Backtrack for penetration testing or Android on a phone/pad. This is good and something you can't do in Windows.

I don't know what Linux Evangelists expect to happen on the desktop, but whatever the case, they've done little to nothing up to this point [...] A great OS with all kinds of potential, but way too many cooks in the kitchen, and no unified direction whatsoever.


Wrong - Linux on the desktop has come a long way over the last few years KDE is a very good Desktop and whatever one thinks of Unity, Ubuntu and Canonical certainly are heading in a determined direction and has a unified vision of what it wants. It does make me wonder if you have used Linux in the last five years

Ubuntu etc are not simply distro's they are OSes

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RE[8]: Not so fast
by WorknMan on Thu 29th Mar 2012 01:48 in reply to "RE[7]: Not so fast"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

There is no reason why they should all join together and would be worse off if they did.


Really? Have you seen their market share lately?

It is good that you can use Parted Magic for partition/disk management, Ubuntu on the Desktop or Mint or Fedora and Backtrack for penetration testing or Android on a phone/pad. This is good and something you can't do in Windows.


And why do you need different distros for that?

Wrong - Linux on the desktop has come a long way over the last few years


Oh yeah, what do they have... like 5 more users than they did in 1996? ;)

Ubuntu etc are not simply distro's they are OSes


Yeah, that's what I mean... 900 distros/operating systems competing for a very distant 3rd behind Windows and OSX. What a waste.

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