Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 9th Apr 2012 14:38 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Windows Phone is fighting an uphill battle. Microsoft still has work to do in terms of user experience and the big hardware partners like HTC and Samsung are starting to lose interest and putting in only token efforts. But Nokia is keeping the platform in the conversation. We're not willing to consign Windows Phone to the same level of hopelessness as the open-source webOS or the out-to-pasture BB OS precisely because Nokia is too big and too active a partner." Having a big partner is by no means a guarantee. Microsoft is doing whatever it can - both legal and should-not-be-legal - to get people to buy Windows Phone, and it isn't working. A brand only gets you so far - you need a compelling product, too, and as much as I like Windows Phone, it's just not there yet compared to iOS and Android.
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Doomed
by reduz on Mon 9th Apr 2012 15:04 UTC
reduz
Member since:
2006-02-25

"Windows" is a negative brand. Tablets or Macs wouldn't be so popular otherwise. People uses Windows because they have to, not because they like it.
They should have gone with "XPhone" or something like that, but now they are doomed. To make matters worse, it seems Windows 8 will replace Windows Phone so their long term strategy is suicidal.
The question is, when is Ballmer going to resign?

Edited 2012-04-09 15:05 UTC

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RE: Doomed
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 9th Apr 2012 15:13 in reply to "Doomed"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

They should have moved to a new name - and only one comes to mind: Metro.

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RE: Doomed
by gonzo on Mon 9th Apr 2012 15:56 in reply to "Doomed"
gonzo Member since:
2005-11-10

That's not true. I use Windows because I like it.

IIS? Check. Apache? Check. Photoshop? Check. Visual Studio? Check. MySQL? Check. SQL Server? Check. Games? Check. MS Office? Check.

All popular apps, apps that matter, are there. No other OS gives you that.

Edited 2012-04-09 15:58 UTC

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RE[2]: Doomed
by jared_wilkes on Mon 9th Apr 2012 16:10 in reply to "RE: Doomed"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

You listed one app exclusive to Windows.

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RE[2]: Doomed
by reduz on Mon 9th Apr 2012 16:21 in reply to "RE: Doomed"
reduz Member since:
2006-02-25

You are not a prime example of a typical Windows user, please don't assume the rest of the world is like you.

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RE[2]: Doomed
by reduz on Mon 9th Apr 2012 16:26 in reply to "RE: Doomed"
reduz Member since:
2006-02-25

You still don't get it, if everyone was like you, Windows Phone would be a critical success.

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RE[2]: Doomed
by aligatro on Mon 9th Apr 2012 17:50 in reply to "RE: Doomed"
aligatro Member since:
2010-01-28

"That's not true. I use Windows because I like it.

IIS? Check. Apache? Check. Photoshop? Check. Visual Studio? Check. MySQL? Check. SQL Server? Check. Games? Check. MS Office? Check.

All popular apps, apps that matter, are there. No other OS gives you that. "

Who decides which of apps matter? You?

Apache, Photoshop, MySQL, Games(yes, games) and MS Office I can get those on Mac OS X. The only one I really miss is Visual Studio, but I use eclipse now, so it doesn't matter. Also, there is a way to install many opensource console and gui apps that are available for Linux. OS X has xserver and ssh client installed out of the box and I can easily run remote GUI applications on my server while controlling GUI on OS X.

Windows is a design mess compared to Mac OS X. Retarded and limited console, application files are stored all over the place when installed, registry, drive letters, need to inject new drivers/reinstall windows when moving to another hardware. No built-in and easy way to create full backup and then clone it to second partition. Idiotic analog of symlink that doesn't work with some applications properly.(IIS for example)

So, keep using your windows while I enjoy my unix-based hackintosh OS X. If mac hardware was the same price as pc hardware, Windows would probably no longer be dominant OS on the market. Unfortunately, Apple is a hardware company and get their profits from hardware.

Edited 2012-04-09 17:52 UTC

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RE[2]: Doomed
by WorknMan on Mon 9th Apr 2012 23:24 in reply to "RE: Doomed"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

IIS? Check. Apache? Check. Photoshop? Check. Visual Studio? Check. MySQL? Check. SQL Server? Check. Games? Check. MS Office? Check.

All popular apps, apps that matter, are there. No other OS gives you that.


Technically, you don't like Windows... you like what you can RUN on Windows ;) If you could run all those apps somewhere else, would you still be on Windows? I use Windows for the same reasons as you, but just different apps that I can't get anywhere else. But Windows itself is a POS, and I DON'T like it. I mean, it's usable, but I could think of at least a dozen different improvements that would make a HUGE difference.

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RE: Doomed
by dsmogor on Tue 10th Apr 2012 12:28 in reply to "Doomed"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

+1.
The reasons Windows brand is bad in consumer perception (poorly controlled ecosystem that have put too much responsibility on HW manufacturers, API mish mash, complexity coming out backward compatibility) are the explanation why MS did drastic u-turn with WP7 and put all previous efforts (including all it's mobile platform supporters work) into a dump.
The fact of the matter is that WP7 is in its core very un-Windows in both philosophy and goals.
Slapping a windows brand over it is not only hurting it but simply illogical and confusing.

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