Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 16th Apr 2012 08:26 UTC
Internet & Networking "The principles of openness and universal access that underpinned the creation of the internet three decades ago are under greater threat than ever, according to Google co-founder Sergey Brin. The threat to the freedom of the internet comes, he claims, from a combination of governments increasingly trying to control access and communication by their citizens, the entertainment industry's attempts to crack down on piracy, and the rise of 'restrictive' walled gardens such as Facebook and Apple, which tightly control what software can be released on their platforms." That governments - east and west - are trying to destroy the open web, that we know. As for Facebook and Apple... Well, all I know is that it is completely and utterly impossible to check what information Apple has about you. Unlike Google (more here) and to a lesser degree Facebook, Apple provides zero means to see, export, or delete the information they have on you, associated with your Apple ID or otherwise. In 2012, that's just sinister.
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JAlexoid
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2009-05-19

Untill now i have seen no such behaviour from apple. nor any proofs of it. Again, not saying that i can't happen, just saying that, in the present, i don't think that is credible.

In short, you think that Apple is a benevolent organization to help all humanity.

This is the company that does 100% of its money by selling your data and profile to advertisers.

Srsly? This crap again? Hate on Google all you want, but at least don't lie.

This is the company that still keeps your email messages on their servers even though you set up "forward and delete on receival".

So you're complaining about the technical issue, you realize that in a high availability distributed environment data can be stay on their systems for months? Hell, even EU data protection laws have no issues with Facebook not deleting profile data immediately, but after a technically appropriate time period. Your rage is unsubstantiated.

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maccouch Member since:
2012-03-14


In short, you think that Apple is a benevolent organization to help all humanity.


no, i think Apple is a for profit company that does its profits by selling me physical and media products. notice the absence of advertising and profiling from this description?

"This is the company that does 100% of its money by selling your data and profile to advertisers.

Srsly? This crap again? Hate on Google all you want, but at least don't lie.
"

http://www.webpronews.com/google-2011-revenue-breakdown-infographic...
notice the small red letters bellow the 37.9 billion. You may google any other sources but everyone of them will state the same: google does its money from advertising, almost exclusively. (i seriously don't count the 4%)



"This is the company that still keeps your email messages on their servers even though you set up "forward and delete on receival".

So you're complaining about the technical issue, you realize that in a high availability distributed environment data can be stay on their systems for months?
"

no i'm complaining that my forward and deleted email, that should not be indexed or kept by google is indexed, searched, analyzed and put in the gmail trash bin where it sits for 30 days instead of simply forwarding and erasing.

I understand what you said but that is a different technical matter. that it sits around in the cache of the servers for days/weeks ok, i can deal with/accept. That it goes through gmail "indiscrete" processing even though i explicitly asked not to, that i have a problem with.

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

notice the small red letters bellow the 37.9 billion. You may google any other sources but everyone of them will state the same: google does its money from advertising, almost exclusively. (i seriously don't count the 4%)

You claim that they sell your data, that is an outright lie. Otherwise, show me where I can buy it.

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