Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 17th Apr 2012 09:40 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless European carriers are dissatisfied with the Nokia Lumia phones, Reuters has found out. According to the carriers, the Lumia phones are simply "not good enough" to compete with the iPhone and Android phones. Nobody comes into stores asking for windows phones, and one carrier executive said "if the Lumia with the same hardware came with Android in it and not Windows, it would be much easier to sell". Ouch.
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RE: Lazy carriers
by glarepate on Tue 17th Apr 2012 22:58 UTC in reply to "Lazy carriers"
glarepate
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2006-01-04

What does your use of the phrase "equivalently priced" come down to? Because I'm pretty sure that you simply cannot buy the 710 for retail. You must start up or extend to a 2 year contract. Once you do that you get a nice phone for $100 and you can get your money back on the mail-in rebate.

For the $350 'list price' of the 710 you can get a pretty nice Android phone. But the carriers don't want people buying their own phones and not being bound to them with that fidelity contract. That's not because they are lazy it's because that's where the money is.

Churn was the #1 issue when I worked for Cingular years ago. I suspect it's still pretty important. That's why the subsidies aren't going away any time soon.

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RE[2]: Lazy carriers
by blue_fox on Wed 18th Apr 2012 08:10 in reply to "RE: Lazy carriers"
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2012-04-17

Yes, I realized afterwards that it's dependent on the country you live in. My comments relate to the UK market, where buying from the carrier on "pay as you go" or SIM free on the open market is commonplace.

The Lumia 710 is approximately £180 sim free (which compares with the HTC Wildfire S (running with a 600Mhz chip) for the same money). I got mine via a carrier on PAYG for £150.

My experience at retail was fine, the staff had good things to say about the phone (if not the use of micro sim cards, where they are experiencing problems with availability).

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