Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 20th Apr 2012 20:09 UTC, submitted by fran
Linux "Linux vendor Canonical said it has 'no interest' in Linux kernel development. Two weeks ago a Linux Foundation report showed that since version 2.6.32, Microsoft had committed more code to the Linux kernel than Canonical. Since then, Canonical has faced claims from rivals that it does not contribute to Linux as much as it should given its popularity. Recently Canonical founder Mark Shuttleworth told The Inquirer that his company has no interest in contributing to the Linux kernel." Why is this such a bad thing? You can contribute more to open source than code alone. Like, I don't know, users?
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RE[5]: Comment by Luminair
by ideasman42 on Sat 21st Apr 2012 15:07 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Luminair"
ideasman42
Member since:
2007-07-20

OK sorry about that, I regret what I said.


The thing is, even if I wasnt, my point still stands...

The way I see it, free software is not a social contract, as with some cases where there its not a rule to give, but frowned not to.

- By releasing free software, I want my users to use it guilt free without some implied understanding they should give _anything_ back.

- If you are given dirty looks for not giving-back, some people would probably prefer to pay and be done with it.

If someone makes money with free software which is doing poorly, then they may help fund it - let peoples & companies self-interest direct which projects are contributed back to.

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RE[6]: Comment by Luminair
by tuma324 on Sat 21st Apr 2012 16:03 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by Luminair"
tuma324 Member since:
2010-04-09

I respect your opinion and point of view.

But think about this: most of us use free and open source software to build the stuff we create for our work. We use tools that other people have created or contributed back. We are basically standing on the shoulders of giants.

There's lots of efforts and who knows how many man hours of work in every software we use every day.

I'm only trying to say that we should think for a moment and appreciate all that, therefore contribute back what we can to that cause.

I'm not saying that people should be forced to contribute or that everyone should release their whole creations as open source. But giving something something back is the right thing to do.

A good thing to do for example is to help the underlying software that you are using to create your own things. e.g. provide good bug reports, implement a feature, fix bugs, test experimental features and report things back, etc.

This will not only help others and the software/project itself but it will also boost your reputation in the community.

I mean, it's only about being a good member of a community and help those that have helped you to be where you are now.

Edited 2012-04-21 16:23 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by Luminair
by ideasman42 on Sat 21st Apr 2012 16:25 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by Luminair"
ideasman42 Member since:
2007-07-20

Hey, I respect you're opinion too ;)

In sentiment I agree with most of what you say.

I've personally benefited from donations to opensource a lot and the good-will in our community is amazing, I don't meant to be cynical and detract from that - or suggest that human nature is ultimately selfish.

But whats right and wrong are moral issues - and I dont think its fair to say Canonical is `wrong` for not contributing back to linux.

Imagine if Ubuntu doesn't exist in a year for being non profitable, I would hate to think this is because of pandering to a community of linux-zealots telling them how to operate. - Rather then focusing on making a great desttop.

So contributing back is great - but I think self-interest ensures a base level of contribution amongst open-source projects and theres no reason to get angry they dont give back to Linux so much.

Otherwise you could get angry they dont contribute back to Xorg/glibc/gcc/grub... it gets silly.

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