Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Apr 2012 19:25 UTC
GNU, GPL, Open Source "A new analysis of licensing data shows that not only is use of the GPL and other copyleft licenses continuing to decline, but the rate of disuse is actually accelerating." This shouldn't be surprising. The GPL is complex, and I honestly don't blame both individuals and companies opting for simpler, more straightforward licenses like BSD or MIT-like licenses.
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RE[5]: hm?
by kwan_e on Sun 22nd Apr 2012 11:59 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: hm?"
kwan_e
Member since:
2007-02-18

That's it, in a nutshell, right there... The BSD license is for the unselfish. The GPL license is for forcing other people to be unselfish.


That is stupid. GPL doesn't force people to be unselfish because the only people affected by GPL are those who use GPL code. The GPL license doesn't claim ownership of open source code by default.

If you like being selfish, choose BSD, or pay for off-the-shelf middleware, where you don't have to reciprocate the sharing. The GPL is for those who want to share their code but with protection from people/companies who just leech from their efforts.

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RE[6]: hm?
by galvanash on Sun 22nd Apr 2012 18:36 in reply to "RE[5]: hm?"
galvanash Member since:
2006-01-25

That is stupid. GPL doesn't force people to be unselfish because the only people affected by GPL are those who use GPL code. The GPL license doesn't claim ownership of open source code by default.


No, it isn't stupid - at all. You just don't like the way it sounds even though it is completely true.

If you choose to use the GPL license you are forcing a specific behavior in those who use your code. That is in fact the entire point... I never said you were forcing ALL people, obviously it only applies to those who want to use your code.

But in order to use GPL code a user has no choice - act unselfishly (as the license dictates) or go away.

I'm sure your next argument is that the user chooses to use the code, therefore they are not forced. That is completely true. It is also true, however, that the author chooses the license, and that this choice is what ultimately forces the user to have to make their choice in the first place....

Hence the BSD license is for unselfish people. The GPL license is for forcing other people to be unselfish.

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RE[7]: hm?
by Valhalla on Sun 22nd Apr 2012 19:52 in reply to "RE[6]: hm?"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24

But in order to use GPL code a user has no choice - act unselfishly (as the license dictates) or go away.

That is a choice, do you know what a choice is?

Hence the BSD license is for unselfish people. The GPL license is for forcing other people to be unselfish.

Wait, so the BSD licence is for unselfish people since it allows people to be selfish, while GPL is for selfish people because it forces people to be unselfish.

????

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RE[7]: hm?
by kwan_e on Sun 22nd Apr 2012 22:58 in reply to "RE[6]: hm?"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"That is stupid. GPL doesn't force people to be unselfish because the only people affected by GPL are those who use GPL code. The GPL license doesn't claim ownership of open source code by default.


No, it isn't stupid - at all. You just don't like the way it sounds even though it is completely true.

If you choose to use the GPL license you are forcing a specific behavior in those who use your code. That is in fact the entire point... I never said you were forcing ALL people, obviously it only applies to those who want to use your code.
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No, it is stupid, because the "force" only happens if the person CHOOSES to use my code in the first place. They're not forced to choose to use my code.

If you don't use my code, you're not forced.

If you choose to use my code, YOU are the one willingly entering the partnership.

You argue about GPL zealots, but you're the one using a really stupid idea of what force is.

The "forcing" is only conditional on whether or not you use my code. If you're not forced to use my code, you are not forced to give back.

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