Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Apr 2012 02:56 UTC
In the News "Sir Jonathan Ive has been crowned British Visionary Innovator in a competition, run by the Intellectual Property Office. Ive won by a large margin with almost fifty per cent of the vote (46.6%). In second place was Sir Tim Berners-Lee (inventor of the world wide web) with 18.8 per cent of the vote. James Goodfellow OBE (the inventor of PIN technology and the cash machine) was in third place with 15.2 per cent of the vote." Alan Turing was also nominated. If you ever needed an illustration of everything that's wrong with the technology industry today, it's this. Guy who designs the exterior of mass-market gadgets wins over guys who actually really contributed to technology. Telling.
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RE[4]: Missing the point
by Tony Swash on Fri 27th Apr 2012 16:22 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Missing the point"
Tony Swash
Member since:
2009-08-22

What's more telling is that you obviously think the Helvetica type face is on equal importance with the invention of the WWW, or the mathematical bases of computing.


I don't think that actually, I think you may be responding to a point I did not make. I do think that the Helvetica typeface was a pivotal moment in the development of modern graphic design and that when the history of the culture of the 20th and 21st century is written in the 22nd century understanding why the graphic design of almost all media changed sharply after 1957 (and remained changed at least until now) and the role of a single typeface in that change will still be of serious interest.

I do think that seminal objects and designs that have reshaped mass culture have an enduring importance.

There is a really interesting and entertaining film just about the cultural impact of Helvetica - worth a look in my opinion. Once you have watched this film you will view the visual fabric of your life utterly differently ;)

There are some clips here

http://www.helveticafilm.com/clips.html#

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RE[5]: Missing the point
by kwan_e on Fri 27th Apr 2012 17:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Missing the point"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

"What's more telling is that you obviously think the Helvetica type face is on equal importance with the invention of the WWW, or the mathematical bases of computing.


I don't think that actually, I think you may be responding to a point I did not make.
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Oh but you did make and you continue to make it, because you are using it as an argument to support the notion that Jonathan Ives deserved the award more than Berners-Lee and Turing.

There is a really interesting and entertaining film just about the cultural impact of Helvetica - worth a look in my opinion. Once you have watched this film you will view the visual fabric of your life utterly differently ;)


Sorry, but my life is too fulfilling already for a typeface to be worth anything. And that says a lot, given that I'm an atheist with no purpose in life ;)

I personally can't tell the difference between Helvetica and Arial or other popular sans-serif fonts and don't care to. I doubt most people can (or care) either.

I can sink this self-importance with one single question: how significantly has the Helvetica typeface impacted Chinese or Indian culture?

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