Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 3rd May 2012 22:36 UTC
Graphics, User Interfaces It's here: the GIMP 2.8. Its biggest feature is something that many, many people have been requesting for as long as I can remember: single-window mode. No longer do you have to fiddle with a gazillion palette and dialog windows (unless you choose to do so, of course). Great work by the team.
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RE[2]: Comment
by pandronic on Fri 4th May 2012 18:42 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment"
pandronic
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2006-05-18

Ok, if you want to actually be useful for the gimp devs, what are the most important features of photoshop that are missing? The full GEGL colorspace depth thing is going to be fixed in the next version, that seems pretty useful, and it sounds like the final nail in the coffin of CinePaint ( Formally known as the film Gimp).


I haven't tested GIMP extensively, and as I said in my first post, this version doesn't yet have a Windows binary. This is why I haven't complained about the feature set. From what I could figure from the changelog, though, some pretty basic stuff is just being added (like Layer Groups and on-canvas text editing). I don't care much about CMYK support, it's nice to have, but not relevant to my work and anyway print is slowly going the way of the dodo.


I think most rational people would be willing to use a product with a slightly worse looking UI if it did everything they needed and was free.


It depends - for casual use, sure. For professional work I don't know - if you earn money from this, you can and should probably afford better (or even the best) tools.

a slightly worse looking UI


I wouldn't say it's strictly about the looks, although to a degree they matter (that degree being plain ugliness). It's more about flexibility, workflow and ergonomics - stuff that someone who doesn't have a background in UI design can't figure that easily. It's not about just adding as many features as you can, it's about how you add them.

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RE[3]: Comment
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Fri 4th May 2012 20:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

It depends - for casual use, sure. For professional work I don't know - if you earn money from this, you can and should probably afford better (or even the best) tools.


If the free tool does everything you want, the way you want, but doesn't look the way you want, you'd spend non trivial money on something that did?

In any case, if your intention was to help by your critique, it doesn't appear to have anything of real substance that any dev could take and use.

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RE[4]: Comment
by pandronic on Sat 5th May 2012 12:29 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment"
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

If the free tool does everything you want, the way you want, but doesn't look the way you want, you'd spend non trivial money on something that did?


Again it's not just about the looks, it's about the interface as a whole.

You could do some of the things you do in Photoshop using Imagemagick from the command line, which is also free. You could also use a flat rock to drive a nail through a plank. Finally you'd probably get the work done, but not before losing some time or maybe even making some compromises (I don't need to drive the nail all the way, it will hold even if it's half way out). Time=money, Quality of your work=money, so by getting the superior tool, in the long run you actually save money.

As for helping the devs, it's not my hobby to contribute to open source projects. If one of them stumbles by and reads my posts, then great, otherwise I don't care that much. If they want my help, raise the money and hire me to rework the UI. I don't want to sound cold hearted, I appreciate the amount of work they put into the project, but coding or designing for free is something that I do only for close friends.

The bottom line is that since they offer their software for the public to use, I think I'm allowed to rant all I want, especially when I feel that people are spreading wrong opinions (like GIMP's UI is any good or that it even remotely competes with Photoshop for professional work).

Edited 2012-05-05 12:42 UTC

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