Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 14th May 2012 22:49 UTC
Windows For weeks - if not months - I've been trying to come up with a way to succinctly and accurately explain why, exactly, Windows 8 rubs me the wrong way, usability-wise. I think I finally got it.
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RE[5]: um
by redshift on Mon 14th May 2012 23:41 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: um"
redshift
Member since:
2006-05-06

I guess windows 7 will be the windows 8 pro edition. I know my company has written WIn 8 off already. It seems strange to me that MS is pissing in the same pool they drink from.

Metro is just about as exciting to me as Dashboard was on OSX. Only no one expected you to get you work done in Dashboard.

It deserves vitriol because it is leaving a big hole for professionals. Even worse than Final Cut X did for video professionals.

Edited 2012-05-14 23:44 UTC

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RE[6]: um
by Nelson on Mon 14th May 2012 23:52 in reply to "RE[5]: um"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Then don't update, I don't know what else you want people to say.

Then Windows 9 will come, slightly polish Windows 8 like 7 did with Vista, and people will go nuts over it, proving how fickle you all really are.

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RE[7]: um
by redshift on Tue 15th May 2012 01:01 in reply to "RE[6]: um"
redshift Member since:
2006-05-06

Then don't update, I don't know what else you want people to say.

Then Windows 9 will come, slightly polish Windows 8 like 7 did with Vista, and people will go nuts over it, proving how fickle you all really are.


Vista was bloated and slow... but it was not fundamentally switching to a interface paradigm that was hostile to power users. They are setting a course for Win 9 to be worse in that regard... not better.

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RE[7]: um
by ncgmac on Tue 15th May 2012 14:10 in reply to "RE[6]: um"
ncgmac Member since:
2011-09-22

Then don't update, I don't know what else you want people to say.

Then Windows 9 will come, slightly polish Windows 8 like 7 did with Vista, and people will go nuts over it, proving how fickle you all really are.


I really don't buy into this argument myself. To begin with Windows 8 is more than just Metro and its flaws, you also have the "multitasking" changes in addition to the explorer interface that has been fluglyfied. Vista's issue was bloat and performance, but overall it was still Windows.

It's a little crazy to believe a touch interface that is already well behind Apple and Linux(Android), has few supporting applications, and is a PITA to use on existing PC keyboard/mouse interface is somehow going to increase market share in either market. It's more likely going to push more folks to Apple, like Vista did, and possibly into the arms of an Android/Linux desktop, assuming developers of that platform can create desirable productivity software for things like video editing, desktop publishing etc. I mean lets face it, as a developer you want customers, and today the customers on I-whatever and Android touch systems look pretty tasty if you can bring them over to the desktop. I mean, if you have to learn to develop in a new API for Metro, why not write for something else?

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RE[7]: um
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 15th May 2012 16:51 in reply to "RE[6]: um"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Then don't update, I don't know what else you want people to say.


People who do not want windows 8 want Microsoft to change it to their liking. That is what they want. They want a company to listen to its users. Is that a bad thing?

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RE[7]: um
by jrbales on Sat 19th May 2012 06:41 in reply to "RE[6]: um"
jrbales Member since:
2012-05-19

What I want is for Microsoft to listen to their customers and offer a means of opting out of Metro in favor of the current UI/desktop. I've tried, really tried to like Metro. I have it installed on my laptop but I find I keep going back to my desktop more and more because having to switch back and forth from Metro to the Desktop is just too much work. I like the live tiles in Metro but could have essentially the same from gadgets on Windows 7 (at least before Microsoft did away with most of the gadgets they had listed). I like the fact that Windows 8 boots up/shuts down faster and overall seems more responsive. But I just cannot warm up to Metro and am irritated that Microsoft is unwilling to listen to its customer base. So while I'll probably reinstall Windows 7 on my laptop, I'm also checking out Linux distros in case the day comes that I decide to ditch Windows altogether. I like the fact that at least with Linux I am offered UI choices so that I can find the one that works best for me. (Note: I consider myself a Windows fanboy in the long run but hey, sometimes you have to make a change)

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RE[6]: um
by Lorin on Mon 14th May 2012 23:53 in reply to "RE[5]: um"
Lorin Member since:
2010-04-06

My company did the same, 200k licenses Microsoft will not be collecting for any longer, there are many vendors that sell PC's without an OS so no big deal.

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RE[7]: um
by kaiwai on Tue 15th May 2012 05:33 in reply to "RE[6]: um"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

My company did the same, 200k licenses Microsoft will not be collecting for any longer, there are many vendors that sell PC's without an OS so no big deal.


If your organisation purchases 200,000 licences (or is it $200,000? please be precise rather than throwing around meaningless figures) then your organisation is run by morons because almost every enterprise customer:

1) Leases their computers and is signed up for a Microsoft licensing scheme that gives them the latest version of all their software for a set price per year.

OR

2) Buy their computers without an operating system and is signed up for a Microsoft licensing scheme that gives them the latest version of all their software for a set price per year.

It is clear to me that either the organisation you work for is run by morons or the scenario you gave is a load of crap - I have a hunch that it is the later rather than the former.

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