Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 4th Jun 2012 19:28 UTC
Windows "Microsoft's Windows 8 will activate its built-in antivirus software only if it senses that the PC is not protected by another security program, according to AV vendor McAfee." That's one way to appease antivirus companies, I suppose.
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RE[2]: Hm?
by n4cer on Tue 5th Jun 2012 13:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Hm?"
n4cer
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2005-07-06


For example, I bet you've never seen MSE block a website that has malicious code on it have you? me neither, in fact on an XP test box I have at the shop i tried sites I knew had drivebys just to see if MSE would raise a fit and it wouldn't. It seems to be great for detecting downloaded bugs, but how many bugs these days come from downloading infected .exe files anyway?



On my work computer (running Windows 7), I've actually had MSSE block malicious javascript from running while I was looking for product info about a customer's Android phone. It also stopped a trojan dropper embedded in (or disguised as) an mp3 file.

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RE[3]: Hm?
by WereCatf on Tue 5th Jun 2012 15:39 in reply to "RE[2]: Hm?"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I had to Google around for a while to find some infected website with a driveby, but yes, I finally found a few myself, too. MSE did pop up and warn about them so I have to guess that the reason why bassbeast's MSE didn't is because he was running Windows XP; I tried with Windows 7 in a VM and so far it's still clean and MSE works as expected. Oh, and yes, it does catch javascript - attacks, too.

As such I am still going to continue recommending MSE to people.

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RE[4]: Hm?
by bassbeast on Thu 7th Jun 2012 03:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Hm?"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

Thanks for bringing that up Werecat as i probably should have been more clear. For my test bug boxes i use WinXP because 1.-I am always getting WinXP boxes traded in so they are plentiful and have been freshly wiped by me and 2.- With so many XP units out there and with MSFT supporting XP until 2014 I think its a more fair test of the AV itself, as Win 7 has several security features of its own like UAC, ASLR and low rights mode so its hard to tell what was the AVs doing and what was the OS.

I'll be the first to admit that Win 7 is a MUCH safer OS, that's why i use it at home with MSE, but again i have to wonder how much of the bugs are being stopped by MSE itself or whether its simply reading cues fed it by the Win 7 security features.

So I wouldn't have a problem recommending MSE if I KNEW for sure they were going to be using win 7, since they will have all those other layers of protection on top of MSE. But I do think MSFT either needs to stop supporting MSE running on anything below Vista or step up to the plate and make their AV better because i can tell you that on XP its performance is really poor, so poor I wouldn't dare run MSE on XP IRL, it just doesn't catch the bugs before its too late.

So for WinVista and Win 7 thumbs up for MSE, for WinXP or XP X64 its thumbs down for MSE and thumbs up for Avast free or Comodo CIS.

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