Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Jun 2012 09:37 UTC
Opera Software I'm not sure if such a thing exists anymore (what, with both Firefox and Chrome doing the release-all-the-time thing), but browser season 2012 has been opened! Opera 12 has just been released, bringing with it all sorts of updates and improvements. She may not be the most popular of the pack, but she sure has the most loyal fanbase.
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Comment by joekiser
by joekiser on Thu 14th Jun 2012 10:53 UTC
joekiser
Member since:
2005-06-30

she sure has the most loyal fanbase.

Maybe not. Judging from the response to the Facebook merger rumor on the Opera forums, a lot of the loyal fanbase has (at least temporarily) moved on. This was a case where the silence was deafening -- Opera's refusal to comment only confirmed that some sort of negotiation was happening. It has only been within the past week that Opera stated that they are not for sale (coincidentally, Facebook stock is off 27% from IPO), but the damage was done at this point. I switched back to Firefox after many years.

An unintended victim of this rumor was Fastmail.fm, but their refusal to refund paid subscriptions for any reason has lessened the immediate impact. I'm sure LuxSci and Runbox saw a spike in new accounts during those two weeks though.

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RE: Comment by joekiser
by Soulbender on Thu 14th Jun 2012 12:56 in reply to "Comment by joekiser"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

a lot of the loyal fanbase has (at least temporarily) moved on


I don't think you can be considered "loyal" if an unsubstantiated rumor makes you leave.

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RE[2]: Comment by joekiser
by orestes on Thu 14th Jun 2012 22:30 in reply to "RE: Comment by joekiser"
orestes Member since:
2005-07-06

I'd agree, to a point. But one would be a fool not to at least be looking into other options in the event the rumor does become substantiated. Opera's been my preferred browser on *nix for a few versions now, but I'll be dropping it like a stone the second facebook's tainted touch enters the picture.

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RE[2]: Comment by joekiser
by joekiser on Thu 14th Jun 2012 22:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by joekiser"
joekiser Member since:
2005-06-30

"a lot of the loyal fanbase has (at least temporarily) moved on


I don't think you can be considered "loyal" if an unsubstantiated rumor makes you leave.
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Loyalty is a two-way street. I can show my loyalty by giving money (as in, paying for the browser as I did years ago, or paying for their premium email service Fastmail.fm, as I currently do). Opera, in return, can show loyalty to me by not (as far as I know) harvesting the data I have in their cloud (which I have been using since the first day they introduced Opera Link). That includes years of bookmarks and browsing history that I have synced to their servers, and the last six years my life that I have stored on Fastmail. Selling out to Facebook would have complicated this relationship, as I do not trust my data with that man.

Opera should have denied the rumor immediately. We were left to speculate that the reason they were being silent for two weeks was because it is a violation to comment about ongoing negotiations to the public. Only very recently in this saga has Opera said it is not for sale, but they still did not deny involvement with Facebook.

I might not be "loyal," but I am not a bandwagon user either. I spent Memorial Day weekend coming up with a contingency plan to migrate from Fastmail.

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RE: Comment by joekiser
by kenji on Fri 15th Jun 2012 16:21 in reply to "Comment by joekiser"
kenji Member since:
2009-04-08

...Opera's refusal to comment only confirmed that some sort of negotiation was happening...


You can not infer guilt from silence. Silence is a lack of confirmation nor denial - nothing more.

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