Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 27th Jun 2012 20:27 UTC
Google So yeah, Google totally just won the conference showdown by easily beating both Apple and Microsoft. Not only did Google announce Android 4.1 with some really cool new features, a cheap but non-crippled tablet, and a new Android device called the Nexus Q, but they also opened up pre-orders for Google Glass. So yeah.
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RE: Seriously?
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jun 2012 10:42 UTC in reply to "Seriously?"
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Then the Glasses vaporware which was impressive at first, but has now degenerated into a glorified mobile webcam?

I am not impressed by the device's functionality, since we have not seen anything demonstrated and the heads-on was a mere "screen saver".
However Google Glass is on pre-order for $1599 with delivery early next year - that is vaporware?

Project Butter? Really? Because The Verge says that it STILL isn't as smooth as an iPad.


To quote TheVerge "It couldn't keep up with iPad". That is not smoothness, that is how fast are the transitions. They didn't say if it was smooth or not. Judging by my "new iPad" and GNex(4.0) it is smooth, though in some cases slower in transitions.
(iPad isn't all that smooth in all cases by the way. Nothing beats WP7, except maybe pure OpenGL.)

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RE[2]: Seriously?
by Nelson on Thu 28th Jun 2012 10:52 in reply to "RE: Seriously?"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I am not impressed by the device's functionality, since we have not seen anything demonstrated and the heads-on was a mere "screen saver".
However Google Glass is on pre-order for $1599 with delivery early next year - that is vaporware?


It is vaporware in the sense that what the people who pre-order it will be getting is vastly different than what was originally announced.

That, and this is for I/O attendees only. God knows when General Availability will be.


To quote TheVerge "It couldn't keep up with iPad". That is not smoothness, that is how fast are the transitions. They didn't say if it was smooth or not. Judging by my "new iPad" and GNex(4.0) it is smooth, though in some cases slower in transitions.
(iPad isn't all that smooth in all cases by the way. Nothing beats WP7, except maybe pure OpenGL.)


I don't think they refer to transitions at all. "Couldn't keep up" meaning stick to your finger responsiveness. Which if they are right, is a big issue.

But regardless, like I said, it is ridiculous it takes this much raw hardware to reach kinda sorta parity with iOS. What in gods name could they be doing wrong? Something is seriously fucked.

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RE[3]: Seriously?
by JAlexoid on Thu 28th Jun 2012 11:33 in reply to "RE[2]: Seriously?"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

It is vaporware in the sense that what the people who pre-order it will be getting is vastly different than what was originally announced.

It still has a screen with a screen-saver at the very least, as reported by the same TheVerge.


I don't think they refer to transitions at all. "Couldn't keep up" meaning stick to your finger responsiveness. Which if they are right, is a big issue.

The flick through test is less about smoothness of the transitions, than speed of the transitions. However, they didn't explain what they did.
Mind you, the same guys also said that a less powerful GNex(has much less resources for a similar pixel count - 1024kpix vs 922kpix) is as smooth as butter and scored even higher than iPhone4s.

My Nexus S, that has comparable CPU as iPhone4(well, actually the exact same but with a faster GPU), runs very well in comparison with iPad.

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RE[3]: Seriously?
by dsmogor on Thu 28th Jun 2012 13:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Seriously?"
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2005-09-01

Smoothness it mostly a GPU thing, and compared to both Ipad2 and Iphone4s , Nexus devices (esp. the phone) are quite modest.
4 cores are really a gimmick on a mobile device imo.

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RE[3]: Seriously?
by delta0.delta0 on Thu 28th Jun 2012 17:07 in reply to "RE[2]: Seriously?"
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2010-06-01

To quote Clay Johnson, (from a repost by Tim O'reilly) :
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Tim O'ReillyYesterday 23:32 - Public
The ultimate demo smackdown. You do have a way of putting things in perspective, Clay!

Clay Johnson originally shared this post:
Google managed to get an unfinished product to live stream jumping out of a plane, bicycle down a wall, and jump onto a stage. It was done flawlessly when people could have actually died and there wasn't a blip. No crashes, no deaths.

Microsoft Surface's browser wouldn't launch.

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Its obvious Google won the presentation show down just on that.. The surface tablet crashed live on stage, how rubbish is that ?

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