Linked by Radio on Mon 2nd Jul 2012 19:15 UTC
Google It was time somebody cleared that up: the oft-decried skins put by OEM and operators on Android are not responsible for the lateness or lack of updates. The truth is that skins are easy, hardware drivers are hard. That is not to say skins do not have other problems, or that the problem is unsolvable, but asking for "stock" Android OS is not going to help on the update front.
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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 07:38 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

I dunno if this is possible, since the hardware vendors are probably using some proprietary code in their drivers, such as HTC's beats audio stuff. And I think I read somewhere that some of the tweaks they do to the stock camera used some licensed code as well.


Then end users will have to accept that 6 months after they buy their phone they might as well smash it into small little pieces given that'll be entirely useless after that point. Like I said, here we are in 2012 and as an iPhone I'm still receiving updates - but it seems that end users with an anti-Apple friend are more concerned with 'sticking it to the man' than getting the best value for money when they purchase a $1000 phone - yes, a HTC One X will set you back NZ$999 to buy the phone outright:

http://store.telecom.co.nz/mobile/pay-monthly/htc-one-x

Why would you say that, since Microsoft has already said that Windows Phone 7 users will not be getting the Windows Phone 8 upgrade? Seems the WP7 crowd is in an even worse spot than the Android crowd.


Windows Phone 7 devices were never promised to be able to receive an upgrade from Windows Phone 8. Windows Phone 7 is a platform, then Windows Phone 8 is a new platform - the hardware specifications and requirements are different hence you don't receive an upgrade. With that being said you'll receive Windows Phone 7.8 which is a damn sight better than Android vendors that can't even be bothered providing an upgrade form 4.0.0 to 4.0.3. Heck, here in New Zealand we're still waiting for Android updates to the latest minor revision.

Edited 2012-07-03 07:40 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai
by WorknMan on Tue 3rd Jul 2012 17:56 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai"
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2005-11-13

Like I said, here we are in 2012 and as an iPhone I'm still receiving updates - but it seems that end users with an anti-Apple friend are more concerned with 'sticking it to the man' than getting the best value for money when they purchase a $1000 phone


LOL, well you're getting semi-updates anyway. If you're on an iPhone4 for example, no Siri or turn-by-turn nav for you.

And anyway, most of the features introduced in iOS6 are things Android users have had since 2009-ish, and you want to talk about value? As it seems that iOS is generally 2-3 years behind on features, even if Android phones don't get any updates from this point on, they'll be light years ahead of iOS even two years from now, so have fun with your toy iPhone and your gimped updates ;)

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RE[4]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Wed 4th Jul 2012 08:24 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

LOL, well you're getting semi-updates anyway. If you're on an iPhone4 for example, no Siri or turn-by-turn nav for you.


Which are hardware limitations (lack of proper noise cancelation makes siri virtually unusable on phones prior to iPhone 4s) rather than vendors deciding that pushing a hardware upgrade will help their bottom line. For me I'm happy if the vendor says, "ok, we'll provide you an upgrade but here is a list of things that you won't get because of hardware limitations" because for me the more important part is have a safe, stable and secure operating systems first and foremost before any of the bells and whistles.

And anyway, most of the features introduced in iOS6 are things Android users have had since 2009-ish, and you want to talk about value? As it seems that iOS is generally 2-3 years behind on features, even if Android phones don't get any updates from this point on, they'll be light years ahead of iOS even two years from now, so have fun with your toy iPhone and your gimped updates ;)


What features of great importance as missing? maybe Android vendors can provide music management software for Mac that doesn't suck, maybe proper synchronisation software for Mac users so that we're treated like first class customers (heck, if Microsoft can provide 'Windows Phone 7 Connector' I'm sure Samsung/HTC can do the same).

Again, the issue isn't about features but about having a safe, secure and stable operating systems - heck, I'm happy to forego any features due to hardware limitations as long as I know that the phone I am running is secure and stable. You keep ignoring EVERY single post I've made in the past and make an assumption about me based on ONE. Great, thanks for letting me know what OSNews.com is really about - lazy people who can't be bothered doing their homework.

Edited 2012-07-04 08:34 UTC

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