Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 21st Jul 2012 23:06 UTC
In the News Okay, so this is entirely new to me. Sparrow is was an email client for Mac OS X and iOS (and Windows), which brought a decent Gmail experience to these platforms - as opposed to Apple's own not-so-good Gmail support and Google's Gmail iOS application which, well, is just a webpage. Google has now acquired Sparrow, and basically all hell has broken loose, to the point of Rian van der Merwe writing that 'we' lost "faith in a philosophy that we thought was a sustainable way to ensure a healthy future for independent software development, where most innovation happens".
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tomcat
Member since:
2006-01-06

Interesting, any specific examples of evil committed by the gates foundation? Is it just that they are a self sustaining non-profit or is there jucy news I've missed?


I have no dog in this fight, but it has been said that the Gates Foundation has investments in things which are ultimately counterproductive to its stated goals; like investments in chemical companies, energy production, agri-business that threatens sustainable development, etc. Whatever. I'm not dogmatic about these kinds of things. There has to be a balance between sustainable development and commerce. Without it, you have joblessness, calamity, and civil war.

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jabbotts Member since:
2007-09-06

I'll admit that I do have a dog in this fight in terms of bias against Microsoft and it's founders.

"but it has been said that the Gates Foundation"

If this is the best evidence available though, "it has been said that" baseless claims by forum posters, then as someone else already said; the original poster needs to grow up.

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tomcat Member since:
2006-01-06

Read this... I didn't make this stuff up... it's been printed in major news publications...

http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/the_bigger_picture/Bill_Gates_Phil...

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zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Whatever. I'm not dogmatic about these kinds of things. There has to be a balance between sustainable development and commerce. Without it, you have joblessness, calamity, and civil war.

Thing is, we don't have anything close to balance, it's not about "balance between sustainable development and commerce" - when the things are overall balanced, then it is sustainable.

Meanwhile, the present state might very well lead to at least as bad things as you list, long-term.
I mean, look at this graph for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Human_welfare_and_ecological_foot... ...that is just insane. And imagine what it might bring, when the free ride will be over (because it will be; we can't forever just take "past hectares" stored in fossil fuels, and future ones by spoilage). We are already unfolding what will be one of the most rapid extinction events in geological record (would be "funny" if of such http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medea_hypothesis severity ...perhaps that is largely the solution to Fermi paradox)

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