Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 26th Jul 2012 00:28 UTC
Games Valve's Gabe Newall on Linux and Windows 8: "We want to make it as easy as possible for the 2500 games on Steam to run on Linux as well. It's a hedging strategy. I think Windows 8 is a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space. I think we'll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people. If that's true, then it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality."
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RE[2]: Interesting but wrong
by Gullible Jones on Thu 26th Jul 2012 02:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Interesting but wrong"
Gullible Jones
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2006-05-23

The Linux graphics stack is going to have to shape up a bit first. And I sure as heck hope that doesn't mean forcing Wayland on everyone.

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RE[3]: Interesting but wrong
by 1c3d0g on Thu 26th Jul 2012 03:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting but wrong"
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2005-07-06

Sure Wayland needs work, as it's still a WIP, but it WILL be the default instead of X in the coming years, that's non-debatable.

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RE[3]: Interesting but wrong
by r_a_trip on Thu 26th Jul 2012 11:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting but wrong"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

The Linux graphics stack is going to have to shape up a bit first. And I sure as heck hope that doesn't mean forcing Wayland on everyone.

Strange reasoning. The graphics stack needs to shape up. Agreed. What I don't understand is the dismissal of Wayland. Wayland is the shaping up of the Linux graphics stack. X in its long, long years of existence has become unwieldy and bitrotten here and there. Plus it carries years of undiscardable legacy. No amount of polishing is going to save it.

Wayland takes the lessons learned for X and implements them in a modern architecture, with as much reuse of the more modern "X" code as possible. On top, Wayland can host a nested X for legacy compatibility. What is not to like?

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RE[3]: Interesting but wrong
by Soulbender on Thu 26th Jul 2012 12:31 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting but wrong"
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2005-08-18

And I sure as heck hope that doesn't mean forcing Wayland on everyone.


What does it matter if it's Wayland, X or something else as long as it works?

Edited 2012-07-26 12:32 UTC

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RE[4]: Interesting but wrong
by _txf_ on Thu 26th Jul 2012 13:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Interesting but wrong"
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2008-03-17

"And I sure as heck hope that doesn't mean forcing Wayland on everyone.


What does it matter if it's Wayland, X or something else as long as it works?
"

There is "works" and then there is "works better"...

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RE[3]: Interesting but wrong
by kaiwai on Thu 26th Jul 2012 15:38 in reply to "RE[2]: Interesting but wrong"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

The Linux graphics stack is going to have to shape up a bit first. And I sure as heck hope that doesn't mean forcing Wayland on everyone.


I do hope you realise that there is more to the graphics stack besides just Wayland.

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