Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 27th Jul 2012 12:41 UTC
Gnome Honest question. Do you think the GNOME project is as healthy today as it was, say, 4 years ago? Benjamin Otte explains that no, it isn't. GNOME lacks developers, goals, mindshare and users. The situation as he describes it, is a lot more dire than I personally thought.
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Let's not forget their other brain turds...
by uteck on Fri 27th Jul 2012 19:56 UTC
uteck
Member since:
2006-07-16

These people also made the stupid decision to have network-manager store all network information in a directory that needs root access by default. So if you are making a system for people that do not (and should never) have root/sudo access then they cannot even connect to wireless.

Why the hell would they require admin rights just to connect to an open access point shows a level of incompetence that betrays system security and any level of understanding of how computers are used.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

These people also made the stupid decision to have network-manager store all network information in a directory that needs root access by default


Uh, what are you talking about? Connecting to wireless or any other network using network-manager does not require root and it never has.

Why the hell would they require admin rights just to connect to an open access point shows a level of incompetence


What does it say of your competence that you're totally wrong?

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uteck Member since:
2006-07-16

Soulbender said:
Uh, what are you talking about? Connecting to wireless or any other network using network-manager does not require root and it never has.

Obviously you just type your password into any box that asks for it. Try creating a new account without sudo rights and see how far you get.

Here are a few discussions about this issue so you can read the even Linus has hit this 'feature' when setting up his daughters laptop.”I first spent weeks arguing on a bugzilla that the security policy of requiring the root password for changing the timezone and adding a new wireless network was moronic and wrong.”
https://plus.google.com/102150693225130002912/posts/1vyfmNCYpi5

And from the Suse forum:
“Previously, network definitions were kept in your local user files. Now they are being kept centrally in a root owned directory. That change is reasonable. But requiring the root password to setup a connection is just a bad idea.
You are at a coffee shop. You want to connect to their wireless. So you have to give the root password at a place where everything you do is being videotaped. Not good.”
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/install-...

And the Ubuntu forum posts about it:
“In Ubuntu 11.10, I've created a standard (non admin) user account. That user is unable to connect to a wireless network via wireless manager without an administrator authenticating.
Seems like it's trying to add the connection for all users.
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1873477.html

Edited 2012-07-28 01:50 UTC

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