Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 7th Aug 2012 11:15 UTC
Microsoft "'We have said think it over. Think twice', Wang is quoted as saying, 'It will create a huge negative impact for the ecosystem and other brands may take a negative reaction. It is not something you are good at so please think twice.' Wang went on to suggest that if Microsoft moves ahead with its tablet plans, the Taiwan-based Acer might replace the software giant as a partner. 'If Microsoft is going to do hardware business, what should we do? Should we still rely on Microsoft, or should we find other alternatives?', he is quoted as saying." Or, you could just build stuff that doesn't suck. Just a suggestion, Acer.
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RE: Stunt
by spudley99 on Tue 7th Aug 2012 15:26 UTC in reply to "Stunt"
spudley99
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2009-03-25

hmm... I dont remember a single company really having the cojones to stand up to Microsoft in the long run... Sounds merely as a marketing stunt to me.
Hope I´m wrong though.


Last time there was a really big effort by hardware manufacturers to shake the Microsoft shackles was when Asus released their early netbooks with a Linux OS.

They saw a way to produce dirt cheap computers with low cost hardware and zero cost OS, and they took it.

Microsoft countered by picking their WinXP master copy out of the trash and giving it to the netbook makers for virtually zero cost (plus possibly a suggestion that their copies of the regular desktop versions of Windows might get more expensive if they didn't take it), and thus ended the foray into Linux.

The netbooks quite underpowered, and even an old OS like XP didn't work that well for them. The initial public enthusiasm for the format started to fizzle, manufacturers responded by increasing the specs until they were really just filling the bottom end of the laptop market, and thus ended the concept of netbooks.

This is also the reason we still have to support IE6 and IE7. Microsoft was forced to extend the lifespan of XP specifically because of this action. They were willing to make us all suffer IE6 for an extra three years, just to stop Linux making any inroads.

In the meanwhile, of course, they were busy taking their eye off the ball in the mobile market, where the really interesting action was happening.

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RE[2]: Stunt
by Stephen! on Tue 7th Aug 2012 18:55 in reply to "RE: Stunt"
Stephen! Member since:
2007-11-24

Last time there was a really big effort by hardware manufacturers to shake the Microsoft shackles was when Asus released their early netbooks with a Linux OS.

They saw a way to produce dirt cheap computers with low cost hardware and zero cost OS, and they took it.

Microsoft countered by picking their WinXP master copy out of the trash and giving it to the netbook makers for virtually zero cost


For a company with a significant amount of market share, it makes Microsoft seem rather insecure, considering the amount of market share they could lose to Linux netbooks, would likely be negligible.

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RE[2]: Stunt
by ze_jerkface on Wed 8th Aug 2012 03:07 in reply to "RE: Stunt"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

You know there is another side to that story which is that those early Linux netbooks had support issues.

Ubuntu broke a Dell netbook that had Ubuntu pre-installed. But I realize many of you are in denial of the 6 month update n break problem.

Changing distros won't matter, it's just the nature of Linux. Dell would have to create and support their own distro which includes hiring a team of developers to deal with kernel churn while insuring compatibility.

Linux is not designed as a fail-safe desktop OS and Linus doesn't give a f*** about success on the desktop.

Linux can somehow compete with Windows on the server by those same OEMs that Linux fans claims are part of some ebil M$ conspiracy.

The harsh reality is the desktop Linux is not free. There is no license fee but it still comes with a lot of costs. XP was much better for granny and cheaper. Linux is dead on the desktop and it's too late for any revival. Android is the future of consumer Linux.

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RE[2]: Stunt
by zima on Sat 11th Aug 2012 03:36 in reply to "RE: Stunt"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

> hmm... I dont remember a single company really having the cojones to stand up to Microsoft in the long run... Sounds merely as a marketing stunt to me.

Last time there was a really big effort by hardware manufacturers to shake the Microsoft shackles was when Asus released their early netbooks with a Linux OS.
They saw a way to produce dirt cheap computers with low cost hardware and zero cost OS, and they took it.
Microsoft countered by picking their WinXP master copy out of the trash and giving it to the netbook makers for virtually zero cost [...]
The netbooks quite underpowered, and even an old OS like XP didn't work that well for them.

The OS wasn't zero cost to Asus, Xandros was definately getting something out of it. And in return for a quite poor Linux variant, which definitely worked worse than XP.

But, somewhere in there, you nearly said that - yes - it was most likely again just another way to get better deals out of MS. That was what Asus saw.

This is also the reason we still have to support IE6 and IE7. Microsoft was forced to extend the lifespan of XP specifically because of this action. They were willing to make us all suffer IE6 for an extra three years, just to stop Linux making any inroads.

Nonsense. IE6 is virtually unused for quite some time by general population - which you would realize if you'd just look, once in a while, at general web browsing stats.

IE6 did hold out much longer in corporate settings who don't bother to upgrade, but that's separate from MS ...hell, Microsoft would probably love if corps upgraded earlier (instead of sitting on XP and its default browser for so long, many of them just now upgrading to 7)

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