Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 8th Aug 2012 22:29 UTC
Gnome The future of GNOME - an interesting subject. GNOME 3 has been out and about for a while, and it hasn't exactly been a smashing success. One of the efforts to take GNOME to the next level is what the team refers to as GNOME OS - but in reality, it's a set of improvements to GNOME that are just as interesting to GNOME-the-desktop-environment.
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Gnome 3 Still Sucks
by Ninjawidget on Fri 10th Aug 2012 17:17 UTC
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The problem is that Gnome3 still totally sucks, and the devs won't take on board what the end users are saying, namely that they have taken away alot of the things that make Gnome soo easy to use. It totally sucks now, to such an extent that I no longer have it on my pc. I know a minority like it, and thats fair enough, but when does the minority ditate to the majority? This was why I don't use PCLinuxOS, its a good distro, but I can't stand Texstar and his attitude.

Now, at the mo I am using Unity, and mainly XFCE, which I have tweaked easily to match my way of working, and I am also being asked to help tweak others systems as well.

For development we use an unmodified Ubuntu system for servers, and Centos for the other servers, but nobody here likes Gnome 3, and thats a shame, but its true. We're looking at the MATE de, but don't want to have to rely on Gnome 2 shells, so we're also looking at Cinnamon, but thats got some quirks and useability issues.

Some on the Gnome lists have told us if we don't like it to leave, so we have, and no longer contribute to the project, I'm not alone in this, as a number of other well known devs have left or are in the process of leaving and just finalising their code etc so they don't have to provide anymore updates.

Also, when Fedora starts rumblings that they may well replace Gnome 3 as their default, you start to realise that Gnome is huge huge trouble.

Yes, they're staring into the abyss, but there is a lifeline, if only they'd tuck tail and accept they were wrong.

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RE: Gnome 3 Still Sucks
by sicofante on Sat 11th Aug 2012 00:21 in reply to "Gnome 3 Still Sucks"
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Also, when Fedora starts rumblings that they may well replace Gnome 3 as their default, you start to realise that Gnome is huge huge trouble.

Do you have any links? (I'm genuinely interested, not trolling.)

If Gnome loses Redhat support, who's going to pay the bills?

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RE: Gnome 3 Still Sucks
by Jason Bourne on Sat 11th Aug 2012 01:54 in reply to "Gnome 3 Still Sucks"
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I am sure that Red Hat is not very content with GNOME Shell and its marketing and production team have been measuring the decline of Fedora popularity since the adoption of this new version.

Someone has just introduced MATE as another option upon installation and it may very well be that the Red Hat developers turn towards MATE. They know the code, and they can sponsor this. This will boom when GNOME shouts its independence as a their own distribution, and it's the end for them.

It would be very timing to hear what Red Hat has to say about the future of RHEL 7, although this doesn't affect directly their market, it has been a huge impact on their testbed distro, and I am sure they are not pleased.

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RE[2]: Gnome 3 Still Sucks
by SeeM on Sun 12th Aug 2012 11:15 in reply to "RE: Gnome 3 Still Sucks"
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Someone from Red Hat said something (last year, or who years ago, I don't remember) about Gnome beeing Linux only WM. They wanted to stop supporting Solaris and NIX with Gnome. People complained, because Sun was donating Gnome in the past.

I think RH folks are simply pissed off. They asked again and again "when you Canonical write some code for us Linux kernel users?". And Canonical wrote Unity, Bazaar and Store, basically for Ubuntu only. So now RH is taking their toys including Gnome desktop and prepare it for massive wave of tablet-like computers designed for Windows 8. They do it strictly for themselves. Not for Solaris, NIXes, even not for the rest of Linux world, which now uses heavy modified Gnome (Ubuntu, Mint) or switching default WM for something different.

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