Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Aug 2012 08:29 UTC
Apple "AT&T is defending its decision to limit the use of Apple's video chat feature, FaceTime, to its Mobile Share data plans by saying that the limitation does not violate the FCC's net neutrality rules. The company wrote in a blog post on Wednesday that some groups had 'another knee-jerk reaction' to AT&T's limitation, but the company argues that its decision meets all FCC requirements." You can expect Verizon to follow suit soon. Carriers don't do things like this unless they know the competition will tag along. This also happens to explain why Apple probably can't do much about it; if both Verizon and AT&T give FaceTime the boot like this, there's little Apple can do. For what it's worth - I'm happy The Netherlands (and Chile!) has unconditional net neutrality. This would not fly here, further illustrating the need for net neutrality.
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RE: Who use facetime?
by MOS6510 on Thu 23rd Aug 2012 11:56 UTC in reply to "Who use facetime?"
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Yes, a number of people do. All of them employed by Apple working in the testing division and a few who make commercials.

I don't think video adds much to a call. If any it makes it harder to hear someone.

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RE[2]: Who use facetime?
by orfanum on Thu 23rd Aug 2012 12:16 in reply to "RE: Who use facetime?"
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2006-06-02

It looks as though the fates have decreed we must always disagree with each other ;) I have relatives far, far away; FaceTime gives me a cheap, effective way via wireless of speaking to them and keeping that contact alive (well, it will do until the point at which I get my Galaxy SIII at which time I will skip to Skype or Tango).

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RE[3]: Who use facetime?
by MOS6510 on Thu 23rd Aug 2012 12:25 in reply to "RE[2]: Who use facetime?"
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2011-05-12

The problem I have with camera's is that I was around when people started getting them (webcams) and they kept video chatting without having any other reason but to use their cam.

I have often even denied having a webcam!

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RE[3]: Who use facetime?
by zima on Wed 29th Aug 2012 08:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Who use facetime?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

relatives far, far away; FaceTime gives me a cheap, effective way via wireless of speaking to them and keeping that contact alive (well, it will do until the point at which I get my Galaxy SIII at which time I will skip to Skype or Tango).

Though generally speaking (worldwide perspective, and such), FaceTime can be hardly described as "cheap" since it requires buying into Apple hardware ...for all videocall participants. And/or rejecting those family members who won't or can't do that ;p (which basically means most of computer/smartphone-using planet)

Yeah, Skype OTOH...

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RE[2]: Who use facetime?
by zima on Tue 28th Aug 2012 11:55 in reply to "RE: Who use facetime?"
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2005-07-06

Yes, a number of people do. All of them employed by Apple working in the testing division and a few who make commercials.

But you ignore the absolutely crucial usages of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camfecting , http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camgirling , chatroulette, and general cybering!!1

Or of ~businessmen and ~politicians being able to pose for PR pictures, showing us how they're hard at work of making decisions! ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Medvedev_and_Nurgaliev_TANDBERG_T... & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Medvedev_and_Vladimir_Yakunin.jpg ). I suppose we can also use the "camwhore" term in this case, maybe even more so.

Or of students being able to pretend they get to know other cultures! ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:American,_Indonesian_Students_Lin... )

Yay & I don't think scifi authors were predicting something quite like that (but generally... http://www.osnews.com/permalink?523521 & http://www.osnews.com/permalink?525237 & http://www.osnews.com/thread?492454 & http://www.osnews.com/permalink?492991 & http://www.osnews.com/permalink?489385 ...come to think of it, videoconferencing is a very old trick of myths and storytelling: just back then via spells and magically transmitting vision/presence - but do computers work any different than magic for most people?)


...well, and there are also services, here and there, to relay & interpret telephone communication with the deaf, I suppose.

Edited 2012-08-28 11:57 UTC

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RE[3]: Who use facetime?
by MOS6510 on Tue 28th Aug 2012 12:02 in reply to "RE[2]: Who use facetime?"
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2011-05-12

This is more about webcams. FaceTime is Apple's video calling, which works only via WiFi making is already half useless.

Personally I see no reason, very most of all the time, to be able to see the other person. I'd rather hold the phone to my ear than keep it in front of me.

Also I don't find it very easy to make a FaceTime call. I'd rather make a "normal" call and have the iPhone indicate it's also possible to switch on the cam (like is switches to iMessage from text message when it finds out the target is an iPhone). Now I have no idea who has and who hasn't FaceTime.

If a FaceTime call fails it could be because they have no FaceTime or are not in WiFi range. So why bother with the hassle and not make a voice call straight away.

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