Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Aug 2012 12:07 UTC, submitted by MOS6510
Hardware, Embedded Systems "n the fall of 1977, I experimented with a newfangled PC, a Radio Shack TRS-80. For data storage it used - I kid you not - a cassette tape player. Tape had a long history with computing; I had used the IBM 2420 9-track tape system on IBM 360/370 mainframes to load software and to back-up data. Magnetic tape was common for storage in pre-personal computing days, but it had two main annoyances: it held tiny amounts of data, and it was slower than a slug on a cold spring morning. There had to be something better, for those of us excited about technology. And there was: the floppy disk."
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RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510
by Doc Pain on Fri 31st Aug 2012 03:02 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by MOS6510"
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"Now kids don't even know what a floppy is and am I part of the generation people wonder about how we ever managed with cassettes and floppies.

They might not know what a floppy is - but, curiously, the kids probably use it relatively often, in a way: after all, a stylised floppy is still quite frequently used as a "save" icon in application toolbars.
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See ny comment regarding "old people icons" (floppy, radio buttons, bookmark, folder, envelope and so on) that are still in use today, with their origin mostly unknown by its young users:

http://www.osnews.com/thread?522235

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RE[3]: Comment by MOS6510
by zima on Fri 31st Aug 2012 05:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by MOS6510"
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2005-07-06

tape reels: and an animated cassette tape, displayed on the screen of a DAP, feels incredibly satisfying ;)
(hm, I must dig up my walkman ...I'm still missing how one battery lasts at least 80h of playback)

Though I can't really agree that many of the listed items "don't make sense anymore" or that the "context of those icons is mostly of historic nature". Bookmarks, notes, calendars, ~folders, tools are still very popular, even if some of them improvised or if they don't really have a standard form; and digicams don't look that different from old photo cameras - all still very much "living" objects around us, and they should remain so for foreseeable future (classic telephones maybe not, but there's also still plenty of them around).
And radio buttons were always just about the name, I think... which is probably hardly even known to the general populace?

But mail in envelopes might be even more fitting nowadays - after all, usually some info that we'd prefer to avoid arrives in it ...which also properly describes email (spam) ;)

Your mention of hieroglyphs there reminded me about one revelation I stumbled on - look at some of the images in:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_bone_script
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_bronze_inscriptions
...so, the Chinese alphabet was quite pictorial in nature, and evolved from that (perhaps eased by the fortunate coincidence of seemingly very "line art" style, compared to some other systems, since its beginnings). Makes one wonder what the evolution of our icons might be ;p


BTW, I actually thought a bit recently about what could replace the "save floppy" icon - and I came up with "rotating" green USB pendrive (smth similar to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2008Computex_DnI_Award_SIG_S... but with standard USB plug, so it would be less ambiguous), only partially opened to form a "V" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tick_(check_mark) - though apparently it might have issues in Nordic countries ;) ). What do you think? ;>
(yeah, would probably clash with plenty of existing icon usage, NVM Nordic)

Edited 2012-08-31 06:01 UTC

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