Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 31st Aug 2012 11:37 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Where can I order? "Nokia's new flagship Windows Phone 8 device has been leaked today, revealed as the Lumia 920. Posted to Twitter by Evleaks, the Lumia 920 appears to include a PureView camera that the company has been hinting at in recent weeks. Codenamed the Phi, Nokia's Lumia 920 is said to include a 4.5-inch display and will likely be available in a number of colors judging by the leaked image." Yes miss, the red one please. No, no need to wrap it, don't need bag - I'll have ripped open the box before I go through the door.
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RE: it's possible
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 1st Sep 2012 01:14 UTC in reply to "it's possible"
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So it's completely possible to build a smartphone and not copy the iPhone. Good to know!

It's not. Even devices with *keyboards* were found to infringe the iPhone's *design* patents by the competent (haha) jury.

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RE[2]: it's possible
by WereCatf on Sat 1st Sep 2012 06:30 in reply to "RE: it's possible"
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It's not. Even devices with *keyboards* were found to infringe the iPhone's *design* patents by the competent (haha) jury.

That's the scary thing about the ruling: even a TV infringes on the design patents, even though it predates the patents by decades.

As much as I dislike Apple and their behaviour I have to say that Samsung is also partially to blame for this ruling: both Apple and Samsung ruled out technically-adept people from the jury in the hopes that the jury would misunderstand things and uphold the parties' patents claims, ie. it was a gambit on both Apple's and Samsung's part and for Samsung the gambit wasn't worth it -- Samsung was clearly hoping the jury would award them Lots of Money(TM) for the patents. Greed got the better of Samsung and now, unless the appeals court overturns the verdict, the whole U.S. consumer base has to pay for it.

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RE[3]: it's possible
by Nelson on Sat 1st Sep 2012 16:43 in reply to "RE[2]: it's possible"
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The TV thing is a mischarcterization of the ruling. Samsungs devices infringed on a totality of the design of the iPhone from the shape, to the icons, to the colors, to the design of the box. As a whole the products infringed, not individually.

Did the Jury make mistakes? Of course. The verdict form and subject matter was complicated (in fact an article on OSNews even pointed it out) but can it be taken care of by a Judge or on appeal? Of course. We're talking a few million in the scheme of a billion dollars, so it isn't like there was a grand conspiracy.

This villainization of the Jury is disgusting.

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