Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 5th Sep 2012 23:41 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless If there's one thing I miss in the current smartphone industry, it's design. Honest to good, real design. We basically see one boring slab after another, void of any true identity, whether it's iPhone, Samsung, or any of the others. In this boring world of grey, black, and the occasional white, Nokia is the jester, coming up with its own unique designs and crazy colour selection. Today, the company unveiled the Lumia 920 and 820 to continue this trend.
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Dekonega
Member since:
2009-07-28

Everybody who I personally know and who are in the business just hate Windows Phone smartphones. There are so much missing functionality you had or have with Symbian and N9's Meego, and Android and iOS that it makes no sense for anyone to own a Windows Phone device.

In fact some dude made up a list of 121 reasons why you should avoid Windows Phone (7.5) as much as you can. And most embarrassing things are that there's no way you could have a local computer, cloud-free, address book, VPN connections, Bluetooth file transfer or filters for call history into missed calls, received calls, dialled calls, and so on.

http://my-symbian.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=44034

Just avoid Windows Phone. It's horrible shit based on my own experiences and experiences of others. The fact that Nokia's stock took -16% deep dive is a completely natural reaction for their new Windows Phone devices.

Edited 2012-09-06 18:32 UTC

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

It's horrible shit based on my own experiences and experiences of others.


I actually know a lot of people who are more than happy with their Lumias. Granted, these people are not geeks; they're Average Janes and are not looking for the same things in phones as we are.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

101 (stupid, pointless, or otherwise useless) reasons that (a fairly limited amount of very specific) people hate Windows Phone. Gotcha

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Dekonega Member since:
2009-07-28

101 (stupid, pointless, or otherwise useless) reasons that (a fairly limited amount of very specific) people hate Windows Phone. Gotcha


Wrong. There are more than 121 reasons (Apparently you didn't read the list or the post at all).

Are you completely sure that people don't need features like...

108. No bluetooth file transfer.
109. Cannot handle USSD codes necessary for prepaid users to obtain services.
110. Cannot filter call history into Missed Calls, Received Calls, Dialled Calls, Recent Calls, etc.
111. No way to backup or export call history.
112. Does not show call duration in call history.
113. No way to edit MMS profile for Operators in the OS. Need an app which is not available in all markets
114. Call history does not group calls by contact.
115. Call history does not show the time of call for calls older than current day.
116. Cannot set custom sounds for different types of notifications.
117. No ringer profiles.
118. Cannot send/receive contact as a csv file.
119. Cannot backup contacts to PC, only to SkyDrive
120. Cannot backup sms at all, not even to SkyDrive
121. Cannot save contact to SIM card.
122. Cannot change alarm ring tone or use a MP3 file.
123. Cannot set alarm snooze interval.


It doesn't matter if you're a geek or not. I think that these things are damn essential for a phone. Every current Symbian device has these things. Meego/Harmattan does these things too. Damn, even the cheapest 10€ Chinese dumb phones have these features. So why Windows Phone devices cannot have them?

By the way, my favourite "feature" in Windows Phone is that if you're talking to a phone and you receive a SMS then the WP device will make you deaf.

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Drumhellar Member since:
2005-07-12

I agree with a couple of those (no constant signal/battery indicator), but most of those are issues that actually effect very few people, are non-issues, or apply to other smartphones as well.

Having been using 7.5 for a while, I am very satisfied.

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Dekonega Member since:
2009-07-28

I agree with a couple of those (no constant signal/battery indicator), but most of those are issues that actually effect very few people, are non-issues, or apply to other smartphones as well.

Having been using 7.5 for a while, I am very satisfied.


I do disagree with some of the items in that list. For example I don't believe that a communications device doesn't need to have an equaliser built-in with the default media player (as long as 3rd party application creators can make it happen later on).

80. No equalizer for Zune music player.


Reason 80 is a bit too demanding (although for example iOS comes with built-in equalizer settings.) It's not a standard thing to come with every smarthphone OS. Although it can be widely found. And I understand that some things were software bugs within Lumia line itself like reason 105.

105. Cannot be charged up when battery is flat. (Lumia specific)
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(It has been fixed to my knowledge by now.)

And things that Microsoft is going to address in Windows Phone 8. For example:

24. Tiles are fixed size and for many functions is a waste of space.


Microsoft also now promises to give at least 24 months of major upgrades before next major revision which to current models cannot upgrade. This starts with the WP8.

However the fact is that WP7 devices cannot be upgraded to 8, and it's just a huge betrayal. It's just not comprehensible since Nokia's Lumia 900 buyers like were betrayed the worst possible way. Early adopters/buyers are the people who advertise the product to others. No-WP8-upgrade had huge negative impact to Nokia's reputation and now they essentially have to rebuild that trust. And it's not just Nokia's issue.

I do think that there are serious issues with Windows Phone devices. For example reason:

99. Phone cannot be charged when off.


Which have to be issued in Windows Phone 8, or it'll be an epic fail. For example this problem has been around since Zune media players. Why Microsoft hasn't fixed it already?

What about usability issues?

19. Alarm clock cannot work when phone is turned off. All Nokia Symbian and Meego phones can do this.

95. Wi-fi disconnects when screen sleeps.


And just some weird stuff like:

13. Cannot sync directly with Outlook without syncing to Cloud.


The sync options are just obscure and difficult to comprehend, or just plain privacy violations. If I buy a phone, why should I be forced to make a pact with the software maker to give all my personal information to their servers outside my country's jurisdiction?

Makes no sense at all.

It's easy to buy iPhone or any Android device since they have all the stuff people actually need and want. Making the conscious decision to leave the Windows Phone out of the picture is even easier.

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Actually our mobile dev team, think the WP7 phones are really good, they don't like the web browser soo much ;)

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