Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 14th Sep 2012 22:30 UTC
Intel You'd think this sort of stuff belonged to the past - but no. Apparently, Microsoft is afraid of Android on its Windows 8 tablets, because Intel has just announced that it will provide no support for Linux on its clover Trail processors. Supposedly, this chip is "designed for Windows 8". What?
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RE[6]: Comment by jigzat
by Neolander on Mon 17th Sep 2012 09:28 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by jigzat"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

"We are a group of Linux kernel developers (over 400 strong) that develop and maintain Linux kernel drivers. We work with the manufacturers of the specific device to specify, develop, submit to the main kernel, and maintain the kernel drivers. We are willing and able to sign NDAs with companies if they wish to keep their specifications closed, as long as we are able to create a proper GPLv2 compliant Linux kernel driver as an end result."

Wow. Just, wow.

"We Linux devs have finally managed to go far enough in market share that hardware vendors will care about us. Now that we are here, we don't care for the younger OSs that are struggling just like we did before anymore, and will gladly sign NDAs on specs so as to keep an edge on them"

Edited 2012-09-17 09:37 UTC

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RE[7]: Comment by jigzat
by lemur2 on Mon 17th Sep 2012 10:00 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by jigzat"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

""We are a group of Linux kernel developers (over 400 strong) that develop and maintain Linux kernel drivers. We work with the manufacturers of the specific device to specify, develop, submit to the main kernel, and maintain the kernel drivers. We are willing and able to sign NDAs with companies if they wish to keep their specifications closed, as long as we are able to create a proper GPLv2 compliant Linux kernel driver as an end result."

Wow. Just, wow.

"We Linux devs have finally managed to go far enough in market share that hardware vendors will care about us. Now that we are here, we don't care for the younger OSs that are struggling just like we did before anymore, and will gladly sign NDAs on specs so as to keep an edge on them"
"

The Linux driver project is over five years old. Why didn't you make this complaint back in April 2007?

http://lwn.net/Articles/276973/

"So the LDP was born. It started out as a single place for hardware manufacturers to contact in order to get drivers written for their devices for free. We allowed the ability for companies to sign an NDA if needed to help get over the hurdle that some companies have in releasing their specifications. The NDA process was put into place through the Linux Foundation, and is a 3-way NDA with all of the proper legal documents needed."

The Linux Driver Project would rather not sign an NDA, they would much prefer that companies published programming specifications. However, if a given company insists that an NDA is necessary or there will be no co-operation, then having to sign an NDA over the programming specifications is a small price to pay.

After all, the end product is source code under the GPL. Everyone is free to study that code and determine how it works. Anyone is able even to re-distribute that code, as long as they agree to re-distribute it to others under the same license as they received it. Where is there a problem?

If there is some problem with keeping the GPL driver code open, other parties may still study that GPL code, determine how it works, write a new driver of their own from the knowledge thereby gained, and redistribute their own code under whatever license they please.

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