Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 18th Sep 2012 16:26 UTC
Windows "Asus has a trio of Windows 8 tablets on deck for the holidays, but the pricing is so high - $599 to $1299 for a hybrid - that it's going to be nearly impossible to compete in the marketplace. We were leaked Asus' holiday roadmap and the slide below tells the tale." If this is for real, Windows 8 is screwed in the tablet space. Nobody is going to buy a Windows tablet at prices higher than the iPad.
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Nobody?
by byrc on Tue 18th Sep 2012 17:50 UTC
byrc
Member since:
2006-02-18

Thom,

I personally would pay more for a Windows tablet than an iPad, simply because a Windows tablet would be far more compatible with the ecosystem I work in. Full office, skydrive, SharePoint etc.

Most businesses exist inside the Microsoft ecosystem, and a tablet that, out of the box, will perfectly integrate with the existing setup would be killer. I am speaking of this such as Active Directory compatibility, device management, software distribution, update services etc.

Furthermore, this is more than simply a tablet. Add a keyboard and mouse, and you have a full Windows desktop. I see this completely replacing laptops for many business folk.

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RE: Nobody?
by earksiinni on Tue 18th Sep 2012 18:27 in reply to "Nobody?"
earksiinni Member since:
2009-03-27

Who on earth downvoted this past zero? I absolutely agree, and more: the target market is users who both want a tablet and are locked into Windows software. MS leverages Office, why shouldn't a Win 8 tablet leverage traditional MS monopoly?

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RE[2]: Nobody?
by tanzam75 on Tue 18th Sep 2012 19:45 in reply to "RE: Nobody?"
tanzam75 Member since:
2011-05-19

Who on earth downvoted this past zero?


People who live outside the Microsoft ecosystem, and therefore have no idea about how things work.

Among them are most journalists in the tech and mainstream media, who live in the Apple ecosystem. David Pogue of the New York Times once claimed that businesses will stick with Windows because it was so bad that the IT staff will be guaranteed never to make themselves redundant. I think he actually believed this stuff.

Just as I'm sure the downvoters also genuinely believe whatever they believe. It just happens to be wrong.

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RE: Nobody?
by drcouzelis on Tue 18th Sep 2012 20:02 in reply to "Nobody?"
drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

Full office, skydrive, SharePoint etc.


I think I remember reading that the full Microsoft Office suite will be ported to Windows 8 RT. As for everything else, will it really be available? I didn't even think there was a version of Outlook available for Windows RT, but maybe I'm just confusing that with no Metro version...

Please forgive me if I'm wrong. I haven't really been following the development of Windows 8.

Yes, if Microsoft can get Windows 8 RT versions of all of their big business software applications working well then it has the potential to be quite usful in businesses.

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RE[2]: Nobody?
by tanzam75 on Wed 19th Sep 2012 02:47 in reply to "RE: Nobody?"
tanzam75 Member since:
2011-05-19

I think I remember reading that the full Microsoft Office suite will be ported to Windows 8 RT. As for everything else, will it really be available? I didn't even think there was a version of Outlook available for Windows RT, but maybe I'm just confusing that with no Metro version...


Office RT does not include VBA or macros. This substantially reduces the attack surface for the non-Metro side of Windows RT. But it also makes Office RT useless for businesses that have core business functionality implemented in VBA.

Office RT indeed lacks Outlook. That also removes a large fraction of business users. Some of them can indeed get by with Mail and Calendar, but many won't.

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RE: Nobody?
by Bill Shooter of Bul on Tue 18th Sep 2012 21:10 in reply to "Nobody?"
Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

A couple of points:

Windows 7 tablets also integrated perfectly into the ecosystem. How well did they do?

BYOD is already out of the gate and gaining acceptance. It would be tough to put that genie back in the bottle.

In many ways, there is no such thing as a windows 8 desktop. Its only Windows RT with legacy mode for older more useful apps.

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RE[2]: Nobody?
by MollyC on Tue 18th Sep 2012 23:15 in reply to "RE: Nobody?"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

Windows 7 (and XP and Vista) tablets didn't have a touch interface. They had a normal desktop interface, augmented with stylus/pen input widgets and ink support and handwriting recognition support. And they did well in niche business/corporate/government activities where a mobile stylus-based tablet would be useful. But they had no "touch" (i.e. finger-based) UI*, which is what would be more appealing to the general public (outside of the stylus-tablet niche).

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* Actually some Win7 tablets do/did have finger-touch support, but didn't have finger-touch UI. That is, these devices supported finger-touch but the "shell" UI was still the normal desktop, and the apps were normal desktop apps, which are optimized for mouse/keyboard/stylus input rather than finger input.

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RE: Nobody?
by ze_jerkface on Wed 19th Sep 2012 03:55 in reply to "Nobody?"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Furthermore, this is more than simply a tablet. Add a keyboard and mouse, and you have a full Windows desktop. I see this completely replacing laptops for many business folk.


Why should they spend a premium on it over a laptop? Because tablets are trendy?

When it comes to boosting productivity there aren't many business cases where tablets make sense. This may come as a shock to many but Windows tablets are already used where they are needed (hospitals, construction sites).

I'm also not convinced that Windows 8 is good for tablets. I like Metro in WP7 but I'm not yet sold on how Windows 8 handles multitasking. Maybe it is ok but it definitely sucks on the desktop.

There is another problem which is that Windows 8 will have poor reviews out of the gate. So they're asking consumers to pay more for an OS that everyone says is a POS.

The ipad mini is going to kick the crap out of everything if it is priced as expected. Windows 8 will be third page news.

The only silver lining in all this is that Windows 8 will mark the beginning of the end of Sinofskysoft. Goodbye Ballmer too you assclown.

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