Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 20th Sep 2012 19:24 UTC
Apple "The major new feature of the company's new iOS 6 mobile operating system is a new mapping module developed by Apple itself - a replacement for the Google-supplied maps that have been standard on the iPhone since it debuted in 2007. It is a change borne not of user demand, but of corporate politics: Google's Android platform is the biggest competitive threat to the iPhone, so Apple is cutting ties with Google. iPhone owners might have loved Google Maps, but Apple has no love for Google. Unfortunately, Apple's new maps are simply not as good as Google's." That's putting it mildly - my own town barely even exists on Apple's maps. It's basically a trainwreck, and according to The Verge, Apple has been working on this for the past five years. This is what happens when a company cares more about stupid grudges than its customers. Considering how much effort it has taken Google to get where it is now with maps, don't expect Apple's maps to even get near Google Maps any times soon. This isn't going to take months - this is going to take several years, if at all.
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RE[3]: Comment by Stephen!
by koffie on Fri 21st Sep 2012 09:54 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Stephen!"
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... Hell, that's their entire model with iOS - introduce new features, but deliberately hold back support across handsets to encourage users to upgrade.


Android Handset makers just don't offer new Android versions instead, holding back all new features and performance optimizations so you'll buy the next model ;) This is a bullshit argument, before Apple started with regular software updates for even their old phones, no-one did this in the phone industry. I had a Sony-Ericsson P910 for 2 years and didn't see any software updates at all during that period. Same for my Nokia communicator before that.

This is one of the things (that and horrible battery management) that's keeping me far away from Android, Software updates. No I'm not gonna fiddle around with custom ROM's, I want a smartphone I can manage my life with, not a smartphone I have to manage, which is the feeling I always get with Android. My iPhone 4 got an upgrade to iOS6. And contrary to their iOS4/iPhone 3G fuckup, this is actually a huge improvement in both speed and usability. If you ignore the Maps app, which is indeed worse, I actually got more, not less features. Should I be angry I didn't get them all? I don't feel that way, most of all, I'm happy I still get software updates the day the update is released, even after having this phone for 2 years. Try finding a 2-year old Android phone that's still treated as a first-class citizen and gets an update to the latest and greatest that quickly. Hell, even brand-new-ones don't get this. So if you want to argue on this-one, sorry - you lose.

Also everyone here seems to assume it was only the decision of Apple? I know that Google didn't allow some things in the maps app Apple wanted badly (certainly in the first versions) - like more offline caching. This is the first iPhone/iPhone 3G era where Apple had it's disagreements/issues with carriers for overloading/stressing their data networks. Also not doing turn by turn was also a problem with Google's map policy/licensing, which explicitly stated that you weren't allowed to use it for this purpose as a 3rd party, Apple was no exception. I imagine some people at Apple weren't too happy when Google announced this being included in Android.

But the iOS 6 maps app indeed is problematic. It's biggest problem is lack of data. Thing is, this is a point Apple cant reverse on. They have no choice but improve this, and the advantage they have is that their problems lie with data entirely on their servers. They don't have to push software updates. Yes it will take a good while before it'll be as usable as Google maps, but it'll have to get there.

All in all, I'm actually pretty optimistic about this-one, especially since Google maps finally gets a competitor now. And I love healthy competition (not fanboy crap).

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RE[4]: Comment by Stephen!
by JAlexoid on Mon 24th Sep 2012 08:53 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Stephen!"
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2009-05-19

Android Handset makers just don't offer new Android versions instead, holding back all new features and performance optimizations so you'll buy the next model

You get what you pay for, but even the low cost devices have had updates.
As for top models, they've received at least one major update. (Galaxy S went though 2 major updates, BTW)


All in all, I'm actually pretty optimistic about this-one, especially since Google maps finally gets a competitor now. And I love healthy competition (not fanboy crap).

At the moment is a non-competitor and it will not be an actual competitor(as with most things Apple, it's very restricted to their platform). Google Maps is the app on Android and will be one of the most popular apps on iOS.

Edited 2012-09-24 08:57 UTC

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