Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Oct 2012 22:01 UTC
Microsoft Steve Ballmer's annual letter to shareholders makes it very clear Microsoft is at a point of no return - and in the middle of a transition into a hardware company. "This is a significant shift, both in what we do and how we see ourselves - as a devices and services company. It impacts how we run the company, how we develop new experiences, and how we take products to market for both consumers and businesses." Line. Sand.
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RE[7]: In plain English
by kwan_e on Wed 10th Oct 2012 09:31 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: In plain English"
kwan_e
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2007-02-18

No, neither of us are wrong because these are opinions - now get down out of your ivory tower and accept that you're in the same boat as the rest of us.


Some opinions are more wrong than others. I argue that your view that Apple is a software company and the other view that Apple is still a hardware company are both wrong based on the facts.

It's as though they are arguing that China is still a communist country because the ruling party has "Communist" in their name and their stated ideology, while you are arguing that China is a capitalist simply because they have a ruthless compete at all costs approach to world economics.

Both types of views simply are wrong based on the facts.

Like Communist China, Apple* is neither one thing or another, but is something transitioning into another.

Maybe you should stop hiding in my ivory tower's "all opinions have equal validity" broom closet.

* That's right, all you Apple fanboys out there.

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RE[8]: In plain English
by Laurence on Wed 10th Oct 2012 13:26 in reply to "RE[7]: In plain English"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Whatever your personal view points are, is some what irrelevant.

Jobs considered Apple a software company. He just saw elegant hardware as a way of enabling better software.

As I'd said in an earlier post (http://www.osnews.com/thread?538089), Jobs actually discusses this point in an interview and this is what he had to say: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xEVbxA1FNL...

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RE[9]: In plain English
by kwan_e on Wed 10th Oct 2012 14:25 in reply to "RE[8]: In plain English"
kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

Whatever your personal view points are, is some what irrelevant.


Nothing to do with my personal views. Some people consider Apple to be a hardware company, whatever Jobs says. Their reasons seemed to be a good interpretation and so I adopted part of their viewpoints that Apple was really a hardware company.

What about the contribution of the other Steve? His contribution was hardware, and his side of things was more hardware than software. Did his achievements mean nothing?

It seems this Cult of Jobs is even rewriting Apple's history to write out all other contributors to its proud legacy.

* Go on, you assholes who modded me down - mod this one down as well so you can keep your fantasy.

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