Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 10th Oct 2012 22:37 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Donating to software projects - or, more accurately, open source projects. It's hardly new, it's hardly rare, and I'm sure most of us have donated at some point. That's probably why Canonical has opened Ubuntu up for donations - but with a twist.
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by UltraZelda64 on Thu 11th Oct 2012 03:34 UTC
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Looking at the list, I'm wondering which of the options would be most popular among OSNews readers. I'm pretty sure the one about Debian and the other Ubuntu flavours would win out here, and I must admit that I personally would opt for more and better support for Kubuntu as well.

Yep. You guessed my response. Nailed it. Those are the two I could even consider picking from. The main reason being, well, those Ubuntu variants actually have sane desktop environments and better coordination with the parent distro is always a good thing.

As for "make the desktop more amazing" (what? Are you kidding? Unity? Amazing?) and "phone and tablet versions of Ubuntu" (is that not what Unity is at least partially meant to be designed for? Netbooks and other portable devices with small screens?), I really couldn't care less. Unity is... just not worthy of donating for, IMO.

Also, as for donating just as a tip for Canonical, no thanks. Donating to improve drivers/hardware support would not be too bad, as long as they trickle into other distros.

I think the timing of this is kind of funny. Just after Mark announces that all searches of the "home" machine will also be sent to Amazon for advertisement purposes. Though they claimed it was not really meant to be advertising and just there to "help" users, it was obvious what its intent really was. This seems to just further reflect that: Canonical wants more money. No problem there; I just don't see why they didn't do this first instead of implementing a half-assed Amazon product search with some serious privacy problems in Unity. It would've been better to just ask for donations in the first place.

By the way... does anyone know if Mark ever officially explained is extremely snobbish "we have root" comment that he posted on a blog post of his a while back? It seemed that every time anyone asked him to explain, they were ignored and received no reply. And I would say that the way it was worded certainly calls for an official explanation.

Edited 2012-10-11 03:44 UTC

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RE: Easy.
by Alfman on Thu 11th Oct 2012 04:27 in reply to "Easy."
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"By the way... does anyone know if Mark ever officially explained is extremely snobbish 'we have root' comment that he posted on a blog post of his a while back?"

It's about implied trust in one's distro.
"Your anonymity is preserved because we handle the query on your behalf. Don’t trust us? Erm, we have root. You do trust us with your data already. You trust us not to screw up on your machine with every update. You trust Debian, and you trust a large swathe of the open source community. And most importantly, you trust us to address it when, being human, we err"

When Mark said this, he alluded to the fact that every Ubuntu user already trusts Ubuntu with their system updates, and then he suggests that because of this implicit trust, we should not regard Canonical's data collection of local queries to be an extension of trust. While I understand what he is saying, I don't agree with him. It is unfortunate that Canonical is collecting this private data regardless of whether they're trustworthy enough to do what they say they're going to do.

The article linked above made a very good point:
"We do trust Canonical with all our data, but this type of controlling view emanating from Canonical's founder is rather worrisome because it looks like an 'Apple' standpoint: the company knows what's best for the users and they will decide what the users need, not the other way around."

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