Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 21st Oct 2012 15:11 UTC
Google The Next Web: "Google has also been working with Samsung to launch a 10-inch tablet, confirming leaks which suggested Google had teamed up with the Korean manufacturer for another device. Our source tells us that internally the tablet goes under the name 'Codename Manta', runs Google's new Android 4.2 operating system (previously referred to as Key Lime Pie, but is set to retain the Jelly Bean branding), and will offer a 2560x1600 pixel (10:16) resolution, which we believe will offer around 300 pixels per inch compared to the new iPad's 264 PPI." Between the iPad and this supposed Android tablet... Poor Surface. Poor, poor Surface.
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Only in OSNews bizarro land
by Nelson on Sun 21st Oct 2012 15:30 UTC
Nelson
Member since:
2005-11-29

Does an Android device in a category they have never, ever broken into equal bad luck for Surface.

Android has historically never caught on at greater than 7 inch, bargain basement form factors.

Imagining an Android with a retina resolution (Where they'll have something like 2x the pixels to push) will make an already iffy Android performance story even worse.

The lack of dominance in tablets for Android highlights the truth to a point I made here a while ago but many shot down. People didn't choose Android. Android was chosen for them. Google had good timing and filled a vacuum in the market. That's it. It didn't win on its own merits, it won on being "Good enough" and for looking enough like an iPhone to satisfy Verizon and T-Mobile.

I suppose the only good thing is that if it is a Nexus device it'll be free of the abortion of a software skin that is TouchWiz.

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Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

It was shot down because you're talking nonsense.

You don't grow to 70% market share by being shit - and remember, no carrier pushing or exclusives here. People CHOOSE Android, as APPLE's own research even confirmed.

So, research from a COMPETITOR, or unsubstantiated remarks from a random commenter. Tough call!

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

It was shot down because you're talking nonsense.

You don't grow to 70% market share by being shit - and remember, no carrier pushing or exclusives here. People CHOOSE Android, as APPLE's own research even confirmed.


No. People now choose Android because it has a self sustaining dominance. Just like people choose Windows because it is dominant.

However when you turn the clock back to the early days of Android, the picture is different. Carriers needed an anti-Iphone and Android was the only OS to address that need.

Android is actively pushed to consumers at the retail channel. Saying it is not is pure ignorance. Walk into an Operator store in the US and you'll see that customers are steered towards Android devices. That decision is made for them.

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akrosdbay Member since:
2008-06-09

Android has 70% tablet market share? When did that happen?

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

phone != tablets.

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drcouzelis Member since:
2010-01-11

Does an Android device in a category they have never, ever broken into equal bad luck for Surface.

The Asus Transformer (my wife bought the TF101 after reviewing all tablets on the market) was successful enough to have three updated releases. People are buying them, and they are making money. How does this relate to Android tablets never, ever breaking into the tablet market?

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dvhh Member since:
2006-03-20

Ditto on the TF101, I wonder why Google didn't continue with Asus after the commercial success of the Nexus 7.

But I admit that the new chromebook look delicious.

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RE: Only in OSNews bizarro land
by some1 on Sun 21st Oct 2012 18:01 in reply to "Only in OSNews bizarro land"
some1 Member since:
2010-10-05

No version of Windows was ever successful in this category either, and Microsoft was never even a tablet vendor before. So yes, they need all the luck they can get.

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Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

True. They need good luck, but Android doesn't necessarily present bad luck for Surface.

The same vacuum that existed in the phone space when Android was launched, exists now in the tablet space for Windows 8/RT.

It is the perfect storm for Microsoft. I will bet that a year from now, Microsoft will have a significant hold of the tablet market.

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RE: Only in OSNews bizarro land
by bram on Sun 21st Oct 2012 20:30 in reply to "Only in OSNews bizarro land"
bram Member since:
2009-04-03

Retina requires 4x the fill-rate or fragment processing power.
Not just double.

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RE: Only in OSNews bizarro land
by nej_simon on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 08:29 in reply to "Only in OSNews bizarro land"
nej_simon Member since:
2011-02-11

It didn't win on its own merits, it won on being "Good enough"


So what exactly is wrong with android that makes it only "good enough" and why would the iPhone be better?

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RE: Only in OSNews bizarro land
by M.Onty on Mon 22nd Oct 2012 09:02 in reply to "Only in OSNews bizarro land"
M.Onty Member since:
2009-10-23

Does an Android device in a category they have never, ever broken into equal bad luck for Surface.

Android has historically never caught on at greater than 7 inch, bargain basement form factors.
(Emphasis mine)

Oh dear ... Historically? Don't you think you should wait more than two years before talking about 'history'? I know the Internet has an attention deficit, but that's just daft.

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sparkyERTW Member since:
2010-06-09

The problem with the "historically has never..." argument: http://xkcd.com/1122/

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