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RE[5]: Best Linux distro
by chithanh on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 21:34
in reply to "RE[4]: Best Linux distro"
general users tend not to play around with router software
General users tend not to run Linux.
(and those that do, would only interact with a web interface anyway; which is little better than calling someone a Linux user because they use social networks which are Linux powered).
I disagree, though only through anecdotal evidence. Many people I know who would never remotely consider installing Linux on their desktop computers have replaced the crappy default firmware on their routers. They learned that DD-WRT/OpenWrt will not crash at the sight of bittorrent traffic or from giving it an odd look. Or spoiling their Skype conversations and online games through sudden latency increase or Wifi connection loss.
The web interface argument is as valid as discounting users who only use the GUI of their desktop distro. If DD-WRT or Tomato allow to install and configure everything through the web interface, many people have no reason to open a shell on their routers.
If I extrapolate from this, it makes me wonder whether the *wrt could be the single most underappreciated distro family in handing control over hardware back to the users and freeing them of the whim of the manufacturers to provide updates.
RE[6]: Best Linux distro
by Laurence on Tue 23rd Oct 2012 23:09
in reply to "RE[5]: Best Linux distro"
General users tend not to run Linux.
General users do run TomTom and Android, which is what I was specifically talking about.
I disagree, though only through anecdotal evidence. Many people I know who would never remotely consider installing Linux on their desktop computers have replaced the crappy default firmware on their routers. They learned that DD-WRT/OpenWrt will not crash at the sight of bittorrent traffic or from giving it an odd look. Or spoiling their Skype conversations and online games through sudden latency increase or Wifi connection loss.
The web interface argument is as valid as discounting users who only use the GUI of their desktop distro. If DD-WRT or Tomato allow to install and configure everything through the web interface, many people have no reason to open a shell on their routers.
If I extrapolate from this, it makes me wonder whether the *wrt could be the single most underappreciated distro family in handing control over hardware back to the users and freeing them of the whim of the manufacturers to provide updates.
The web interface argument is as valid as discounting users who only use the GUI of their desktop distro. If DD-WRT or Tomato allow to install and configure everything through the web interface, many people have no reason to open a shell on their routers.
If I extrapolate from this, it makes me wonder whether the *wrt could be the single most underappreciated distro family in handing control over hardware back to the users and freeing them of the whim of the manufacturers to provide updates.
Your anecdotal evidence is skewed as it defies all logic. You cannot be a "general user" who cannot even manage Ubuntu yet still skilled enough to hack a router to install customised *nix firmware. There's a huge mismatch of skill levels being discussed there so I can only conclude that you and your mates are in the minority.
Furthermore, the reason I excluded users that just interact with a web interface is because (and I repeat) it's literally no different to logging onto Facebook; which also runs on Linux servers. So if using a web server was as equal to running Linux as literally having Slackware installed on your laptop, then that would make every single internet connected individual a Linux user. Clearly that's just absurd, thus the logical reasoning is that web users are discounted from discussion.





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I did actually include them in my 1st draft, but then took it out as general users tend not to play around with router software (and those that do, would only interact with a web interface anyway; which is little better than calling someone a Linux user because they use social networks which are Linux powered).