Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 29th Oct 2012 22:13 UTC
Apple "Apple today announced executive management changes that will encourage even more collaboration between the Company's world-class hardware, software and services teams. As part of these changes, Jony Ive, Bob Mansfield, Eddy Cue and Craig Federighi will add more responsibilities to their roles. Apple also announced that Scott Forstall will be leaving Apple next year and will serve as an advisor to CEO Tim Cook in the interim." The most important thing to remember is that Ive will head interface design. Ive is supposedly not a big fan of skeuomorphism, so hopefully, iOS and OS X will move away from the My First Operating System-look. Expect the current popularity of skeumorphism - including elaborate reasoning as to why it's the best choice - to magically radically decline among Apple fans.
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by pfarq on Tue 30th Oct 2012 12:13 UTC
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Stay of execution I think.

The last time I was this pissed with Apple was 1997... thanks to the powermac 7300, which was just the same as the powermac 7200, except it was CRAP.

Why, after several centuries of hammering away at turning ligntning and fire into extraordinarily powerful tools, capable of unlocking the mysteries of the universe, simulating lifeforms at the molecular level, and connecting every point on the planet to every other point on the planet within less than the blink of an eye, the brightest minds in the world, in order to revolutionise the way we manage our lives, in ways we couldn't imagine, by replacing our cumbersome diaries, notepads and address books, toiled away in back rooms, partitioned off from each other and the world to create something so incredible it required trademarking every superlative in existence.

What have they given us?... a PICTURE, of a diary, a notebook and an address book.

I spent a fair bit of time earlier this year going back to have a look at the time Steve Jobs spent putting together NeXT. The vision was extraordinary, the pool of talent was brilliant, and they didn't have any of these cookie cutter morons trying hype the latest incredible version of photobooth. Look at the cube, at the boards, the software, the marketing material, the documentation, the magnesium enclosure, the drop-dead gorgeous logo. Those things were just begging to solve hard problems... and, no rounded rects either.

And not just NeXT... this isn't a fanboy thing. Hartmund Esslinger designed the Next Cube, as well as the first Sparc machines for Sun, and the early Snow White machines for Apple... IIc, SE/30, IIcx and the Quadra 700 are particularly sexy. The original sparc hardware with all the hard edges looked like it should have rendered the universe 1.6 times faster than realtime... the kind of stuff vampires would buy.

Then there's other gems like the SGI Crimson. SGI didn't fail because they couldn't make an affordable products and stay relevant. Their biggest mistake was changing the logo.

Some think this stuff's not important, but it is. When you walk past your machines, do you think of them as something annoying, cumbersome, full of hollow promises, or do you feel guilty you're not using it to its full potential?

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by zima on Sat 3rd Nov 2012 05:54 in reply to "Saved..."
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NeXT. The vision was extraordinary, the pool of talent was brilliant, and they didn't have any of these cookie cutter morons trying hype the latest incredible version of photobooth. Look at the cube, at the boards, the software, the marketing material, the documentation, the magnesium enclosure, the drop-dead gorgeous logo. Those things were just begging to solve hard problems... and, no rounded rects either.

But the cube was tied at first to the mistake of MO, and no FDD in the times when it was definitely premature (one can argue it was premature also with iMac, since it created a whole new popular category/waste of USB FDDs).

And you know, it seems that Forstall was with Jobs since the Next days... (though maybe not the earliest years, not the 80s)

Hartmund Esslinger designed the Next Cube, as well as [...] the early Snow White machines for Apple... IIc, SE/30, IIcx and the Quadra 700 are particularly sexy.

A bit "smoother" forms of Classic and LC475 resonate the most with me, I see them as the nicest ...might be because they were pretty much the only ~old Macs I had contact with, hm (at school, in a place where Apple hardly existed otherwise)

The original sparc hardware with all the hard edges looked like it should have rendered the universe 1.6 times faster than realtime... the kind of stuff vampires would buy.
[...] SGI didn't fail because they couldn't make an affordable products and stay relevant. Their biggest mistake was changing the logo.

What do vampires need such computers for?
And oh come on, SGI was clearly swamped by the rise of consumer GPUs and Linux.

Some think this stuff's not important, but it is. When you walk past your machines, do you think of them as something annoying, cumbersome, full of hollow promises, or do you feel guilty you're not using it to its full potential?

I'd say the ultimate goal is to make the machines... invisible. Ordinary tower PCs go somewhat in that direction, they are typically hidden under the desk. Laptops are also like that, really - they are essentially formed from two halves, display and input; the computer part isn't very prominent.


I love the part of your post with "several centuries of hammering away" BTW ;)

Edited 2012-11-03 05:55 UTC

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