Linked by Howard Fosdick on Thu 8th Nov 2012 02:24 UTC
Windows Microsoft is discontinuing Windows Live Messenger in 1st quarter 2013, forcing users to switch to Skype. Most would want to switch to Skype anyway with its more advanced capabilities, and the switch makes sense to Microsoft, since they purchased Skype for $8.5 billion last year. However, the move may be seen as typical Redmondian high-handedness by those using Messenger with dial-up. Technically Skype works with dial-up but in practice most agree you really need broadband for decent use. Will everyone view Messenger as replaceable by Skype?
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Alternatives?
by Alfman on Thu 8th Nov 2012 03:55 UTC
Alfman
Member since:
2011-01-28

Dropping live messenger will have no impact on me.

I use skype because it's one of the few cross platform video chat solutions around. Unfortunately it's buggy and unintuitive. Contacts who are online don't always show up as being online. I've had trouble with the windows version dropping video and needing to restart calls to get video back. I'd love to have a better cross-platform solution.

There's some praise for oovoo, but they've been ignoring linux for five years despite continued requests. I personally cannot back a solution that isn't truly cross platform: windows, linux, android, mac.

Can anyone recommend a good cross platform video conf solution?

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RE: Alternatives?
by zima on Thu 8th Nov 2012 04:00 in reply to "Alternatives?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

Can anyone recommend a good cross platform video conf solution?

Gmail video plugin (which is really now G+ Hangouts, just launched from Gmail)

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RE[2]: Alternatives?
by shmerl on Thu 8th Nov 2012 05:02 in reply to "RE: Alternatives?"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

No, hangouts aren't using conventional XMPP/Jingle, since they perform custom server side multiplexing. XMPP/Jingle is moving in direction of standardizing client side multiplexing (with Muji). Obviously client side multiplexing is more demanding on the channel bandwidth, on the other hand it doesn't enforce heavy requirements on the XMPP server.

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RE: Alternatives?
by shmerl on Thu 8th Nov 2012 05:05 in reply to "Alternatives?"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Muji is still work in progress, but it's getting there.

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RE: Alternatives?
by WereCatf on Thu 8th Nov 2012 06:56 in reply to "Alternatives?"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

Can anyone recommend a good cross platform video conf solution?


I'm personally more interested in an Average Joe - oriented cross-platform WLM alternative. I mean, the software would have to do all the usual stuff like e.g. voice and video chat, text chat with colours and embedded pictures, graphical smileys, the ability to send and receive files, offline messages, and maintaining of friends lists.

It being a replacement for WLM and needing to be Average Joe - oriented places several restrictions on it, however: chat rooms are not a replacement for friends lists and therefore friends lists are a hard requirement, there must be no need to choose a server or set up and configure server - related settings, and it must be a separate application, not just something that runs inside the browser.

I'm not aware of anything that'd fulfill those requirements except a few closed-source, non-cross-platform clients.

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RE[2]: Alternatives?
by KLU9 on Thu 8th Nov 2012 17:43 in reply to "RE: Alternatives?"
KLU9 Member since:
2006-12-06

I looked into Jitsi a while back (during/after the last major Skype outage). I didn't go with it in the end as I got a bit frustrated trying to set it up and Skype got working again.

https://jitsi.org/

But it's cross-platform, at least for PC OSes. As for mobile they don't have a client, but then it uses open protocols so there's probably an Android client that would interoperate.

And I should probably look into again due its OSS nature and secure encryption, considering how much I communicate with China (Skype for China has filtering and a backdoor for the Party to intrude)

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RE[2]: Alternatives?
by zima on Fri 9th Nov 2012 23:30 in reply to "RE: Alternatives?"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

I'm personally more interested in an Average Joe - oriented cross-platform WLM alternative. I mean, the software would have to do all the usual stuff like e.g. voice and video chat, text chat with colours and embedded pictures, graphical smileys, the ability to send and receive files, offline messages, and maintaining of friends lists.
[...] it must be a separate application, not just something that runs inside the browser.

Too bad for the last requirement. Because a combination (so yeah, still not that great, not one app; though I'm not sure how extensive the Android client is) of Gmail with video plugin plus the original win32 GTalk, does pretty much all that (Gtalk for image transfers with nice previews, and file transfers in general if too big for email); maybe except not having several buddy lists, if that's what you want there.

Too bad it might not last, the win32 client is how neglected.

So, other than that... Skype, I suppose ;p

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