Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 11th Nov 2012 12:48 UTC
Legal Interesting news in the middle of the night: Apple and HTC have announced they've settled all their patent disputes, bringing an end to all running lawsuits between the two companies. The companies signed a ten-year cross-licensing deal. Considering Apple's legal assault on Android hasn't been going particularly well, this really shouldn't come as a surprise.
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Apple vs the world
by TechGeek on Sun 11th Nov 2012 20:54 UTC
TechGeek
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So lets break this down:

Apple vs HTC:
Ended in cross license deal. I don't see this being a win for Apple as their objective was to stop Android. Android is now at 75% market starting from 0% after the launch of the iPhone.

Apple vs Motorola:
Apple was alleging FRAND violations. Apple lost its club this past week when it was revealed that Apple was not eligible for FRAND unless it offered a reciprocal deal to Motorola. Apple stated even if the court set a rate, Apple may not abide by it anyway. Also asks for delay after the facts mentioned above come out. Court throws out case with prejudice. About the only thing Apple has left here is a cross license deal. Apple definitely needs Motorola's patents, not sure if Motorola need's Apple's.

Apple vs Samsung:
Apple wins case with $1 Billion in judgment. However, evidence arises that foreman was biased, and Apple may have none that he lied. At very least, jury ignored court instructions. However, jury did find that Apple had zero proof that Samsung misused its FRAND patents. Prior art was also not considered. Those will be basis of appeal. Since then, slide to unlock and bump scrolling patents have been invalidated. Other courts have found in Samsung's favor, including the UK which ruled that Samsung didn't copy its designs. UK sanctioned Apple for not obeying order over public apology.

I gotta say, while Apple had a bunch of early wins or preliminary judgments, they sure seem to be having a tough time recently.

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RE: Apple vs the world
by jared_wilkes on Mon 12th Nov 2012 01:59 in reply to "Apple vs the world"
jared_wilkes Member since:
2011-04-25

Apple vs HTC:
Ended in cross license deal. I don't see this being a win for Apple as their objective was to stop Android. Android is now at 75% market starting from 0% after the launch of the iPhone.


If you are placing the condition on Apple that in order to win in relation to HTC, they must stop the entirety of Android as a platform cold, they are failing. But that's a false premise and patently absurd. Particularly when HTC's market share has precipitously declined.

Edited 2012-11-12 02:06 UTC

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RE[2]: Apple vs the world
by Gusar on Mon 12th Nov 2012 09:48 in reply to "RE: Apple vs the world"
Gusar Member since:
2010-07-16

Particularly when HTC's market share has precipitously declined.
Yeah, though HTC's loss was not Apple's gain. HTC lost market share not because of Apple, but because of Samsung. Apple lost market share too, from dominance to 20%. They're also losing share in the tablet world and the trend isn't in their favor.

Then there's the other parts of TechGeek's post you didn't comment on - basically, Apple's only significant "victory" is a jury trial where there were several of problems with said jury. Everything else, all the injunctions that haven't been overturned yet, they have done nothing to help Apple in terms of market share.

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