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Internet Explorer "In Windows 8, we reimagined the browser with IE10. We designed and built IE10 to be the best way to experience the Web on Windows. With the IE10 Release Preview for Windows 7 consumers can now enjoy a fast and fluid Web with the updated IE10 engine on their Windows 7 devices. The release preview of IE10 on Windows 7 is available for download today."
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RE: IE10 still disappointing
by lucas_maximus on Thu 15th Nov 2012 08:18 UTC in reply to "IE10 still disappointing"
lucas_maximus
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2009-08-18

http://ontwik.com/html5-2/internet-explorer-the-story-so-far/

If you actually watch this, you will realise why they are always behind. Microsoft's Enterprise customers like sticking to a version number so they can test their apps against it and like the stability.

What these devs don't tell you or don't know is that that they release a platform preview every thing 6-8 weeks so they can test more features and possibly get more features in before the cut off.

While it isn't Ideal, Microsoft have their reasons for their release schedule.

Also while IE9's and IE10's JS engines aren't as fast as the competition ... they are a hell of a lot better than IE7 & 8.

Edited 2012-11-15 08:24 UTC

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RE[2]: IE10 still disappointing
by lemur2 on Thu 15th Nov 2012 09:12 in reply to "RE: IE10 still disappointing"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Also while IE9's and IE10's JS engines aren't as fast as the competition ... they are a hell of a lot better than IE7 & 8.


This is akin to saying that the current worst-of-the-bunch is a lot better than the previous worst-of-the-bunch. It holds for not only the JS engines, but also for the rest of the browser.

It isn't much to crow about, is it? With the first release of IE6, Microsoft had the best browser client of any. Microsoft had clearly lost that lead by October 2006 with the release of Firefox 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Firefox#Version_2

They have been a long way behind other leading browsers ever since.

This is clearly reflected in the market share trends:
http://gs.statcounter.com/?PHPSESSID=j2juf5bil673j4vrso39eijui6#bro...

IE10 doesn't appear to be the version of IE that can arrest this persistent slide, especially if it is the worst performed modern browser, it provides the least features, and it misses out on basic things like open codec support that could easily have been provided at next-to-zero cost.

Edited 2012-11-15 09:22 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

This is akin to saying that the current worst-of-the-bunch is a lot better than the previous worst-of-the-bunch. It holds for not only the JS engines, but also for the rest of the browser.


While you may scoff, we now have all major browsers with decent JS engines, that is a massive win for all web developers.

It isn't much to crow about, is it? With the first release of IE6, Microsoft had the best browser client of any. Microsoft had clearly lost that lead by October 2006 with the release of Firefox 2.


Who cares, that is now ancient history.

They have been a long way behind other leading browsers ever since.


Not anymore.

IE 9 is a pretty fast browsers and are a good default browser to the world's best selling desktop operating system, Windows 7.

Nobody really uses browsers because they do better in the Sunspider benchmark.

This is clearly reflected in the market share trends:
http://gs.statcounter.com/?PHPSESSID=j2juf5bil673j4vrso39eijui6#bro.....


http://news.softpedia.com/news/IE9-Usage-Share-Bigger-than-Those-of...

Err ... no.

IE10 doesn't appear to be the version of IE that can arrest this persistent slide, especially if it is the worst performed modern browser, it provides the least features, and it misses out on basic things like open codec support that could easily have been provided at next-to-zero cost.


There are reasons why Microsoft moves at a slower rate with IE as I have already pointed out in my previous comment.

TBH, open codec support is pretty minor, with the majority of the web still using Flash Video.

Major HTML 5 features and the fact that it can now do Strict mode for ECMAScript, is far more important.

Being a Web-developer, these are the features we want ... I have no interest in some idealistic fight over a video codec.

I have written my recommendations in my blog post here

http://luke-robbins.co.uk/video-on-the-web/

And nothing has changed.

If Web Developers want IE to have better standards support, they should use the platform previews and give feedback to Microsoft (via bug reports).

If you want to troll, actually try to do better than quoting hipster web developers ... which will hate on IE no matter what.

Edited 2012-11-15 11:20 UTC

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