Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 15th Dec 2012 19:11 UTC
In the News "Peers and scientists including Professor Stephen Hawking are once again pushing for an official pardon for codebreaker Alan Turing. Turing's death from cyanide poisoning in 1954 was ruled a suicide, coming after his conviction for gross indecency at a time when homosexuality was illegal." The fact that he still hasn't been pardoned is an utter disgrace.
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RE[2]: "Legal precedence" bollocks
by JAlexoid on Mon 17th Dec 2012 01:57 UTC in reply to "RE: "Legal precedence" bollocks"
JAlexoid
Member since:
2009-05-19

Do all of the "Stolen Generation" representatives have a "convicted of X crime" attached to their name as well?
Pardoning Turing will remove that from his name.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Do all of the "Stolen Generation" representatives have a "convicted of X crime" attached to their name as well?


All? No but for sure a good portion of them was tried and convicted unjustly simply because of their race. Just like it happened with black slaves, american Indians and a boatload of people throughout history.
In fact, it is STILL happening and that is much bigger and more important issue than Turing's injustice.

Pardoning Turing will remove that from his name.


Oh wait, I thought this was about justice for everyone "wrongly" convicted as gay and not just Turing and his name?

Edited 2012-12-17 02:23 UTC

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kwan_e Member since:
2007-02-18

In that case why bother with women's rights at all? At the time of the woman's suffrage movement, they didn't argue for equal rights for blacks, or LGBT.

How selfish of women to fight for their rights and no one else's? Merely by not mentioning other oppressed groups to your satisfaction obviously meant they were all against black rights.

Fuck, we should roll back the clock and remove women's and black's rights until we get rights for everybody all at once.

No one should get rights and it will be a better story to fail than to get any sort of small victories!

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JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

All? No but for sure a good portion of them was tried and convicted unjustly simply because of their race. Just like it happened with black slaves, american Indians and a boatload of people throughout history.
In fact, it is STILL happening and that is much bigger and more important issue than Turing's injustice.

Well all convicted under the same law as Turing have that. And it's not wrongfully convicted. Convicting an innocent human being of crimes he did not commit is a different debate.

Let alone this is only about UK.

Oh wait, I thought this was about justice for everyone "wrongly" convicted as gay and not just Turing and his name?

A) You got this snarky question from a factually correct statement?
B) Posthumous pardoning is all about that - clearing the name.
C) Not a single person convicted by that law will get their justice.
PS) If you want to play the word twisting game, then... So you are saying that Turing shouldn't have his name cleared because he was gay? Bravo on the tolerance front, my "friend".

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