Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 17th Dec 2012 11:24 UTC
Windows "Does Windows Phone need Google and its services to be successful? No. The fate of Windows Phone and its adoption in the marketplace does not rest in the hands of Google. Microsoft itself holds the key to Windows Phone becoming a successful platform, rapid evolution of its cloud services and integration with the rest of the MS eco system." Good editorial on Google killing AES support for consumers and how it affects Windows Phone, by WPCentral's Robert Brand.
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Comment by PieterGen
by PieterGen on Mon 17th Dec 2012 13:10 UTC
PieterGen
Member since:
2012-01-13

Why would the market want a 3rd mobile platform? As much as it hurt me (I'm a Linux guy), the desktop world has long been dominated by 2 (not 3!) platforms: Windows and OSX.

Now we have the mobile space with 2 dominant platforms, Android and iOS. Why would there be space for a 3rd?

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RE: Comment by PieterGen
by shmerl on Mon 17th Dec 2012 16:15 in reply to "Comment by PieterGen"
shmerl Member since:
2010-06-08

Why not. However the market is already fed up with Microsoft garbage on the desktop, so their push for mobile is ignored. Markets needs something new and innovative, instead of another walled iOS clone with draconian control.

Edited 2012-12-17 16:18 UTC

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RE: Comment by PieterGen
by dsmogor on Mon 17th Dec 2012 21:46 in reply to "Comment by PieterGen"
dsmogor Member since:
2005-09-01

Android lockin on the market is far smaller than one MS enjoys in desktop PC world. They doesn't have proprietary formats, protocols and incompatible HW that reinforces dominance through network effects. Their services are based on open standards so anyone can join in. Their dominance is only based on advantages they pose to oems and thus is volatile and can be overcome as fast as it has emerged. So while 3rd ecosystem may not make sense replacing the 2nd or event 1st is (and will still be) possible.
MS story with WP on the other hand is repeating Win32/Office lockin in even stronger manner. Proprietary HW, closed exclusive market, closed source, patents. It takes no genius to observe that once it becomes dominant there's be no way back until another massive disruption.

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RE: Comment by PieterGen
by Fergy on Wed 19th Dec 2012 22:12 in reply to "Comment by PieterGen"
Fergy Member since:
2006-04-10

Why would the market want a 3rd mobile platform? As much as it hurt me (I'm a Linux guy), the desktop world has long been dominated by 2 (not 3!) platforms: Windows and OSX.

Now we have the mobile space with 2 dominant platforms, Android and iOS. Why would there be space for a 3rd?

Look at what pace smartphones are developing and compare that to pcs. That is what a 2 player market does to development.
Please let's have a healthy market with a lot of players. When webapps come they will be the tarballs of smartphones.

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RE[2]: Comment by PieterGen
by zima on Mon 24th Dec 2012 22:55 in reply to "RE: Comment by PieterGen"
zima Member since:
2005-07-06

PCs also improved that fast, for a few years a decade ago ...they are simply good enough now.

Wintel PCs, thanks to their economies of scale, brought us inexpensive & powerful machines (suitable for a nice *nix workstation, for example), thankfully killed the mess with sub-par 80s micros & their stagnation (think about it, C64 was produced for a decade; Amiga also didn't really manage to move beyond 500-generation). And as to why Wintel... we didn't really have better options back then ( http://www.osnews.com/thread?522221 ); at least now it's a bit different, MS should still be the 3rd.

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