Linked by Kaj-de-Vos on Thu 20th Dec 2012 00:22 UTC
Syllable, AtheOS As the Syllable project predicted many years ago, version 3 of the REBOL programming language has finally been open sourced, under the Apache 2 licence (screenshot on Syllable Desktop). Also, the alpha version of the high-level Red programming language, supporting Syllable Desktop, has been released, by now in version 0.3.1 (screenshot, demo program, video at the Science Park in Amsterdam).
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RE[4]: Comment by cipri
by cipri on Thu 20th Dec 2012 23:36 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by cipri"
cipri
Member since:
2007-02-15

I ported Mesa two years ago or so, it's in Syllable 0.6.7. Vanders never promised wifi, we merely discussed it. The rest of your "info" is also misinformation.


Well, wifi was not only discussed it was intended in 2007 as a x-mas present for 2008, or something like that.

And related to mesa3d:
my sincer congratulations for porting it.
But too bad that your port of mesa is not complelte in the sense that it doesnt "print on the screen" according to your own documentation. So I have some little doubts about how well mesa is tested on syllable if you dont have a direct visual output. This is some kind of mesa for blinds.
You could have a good occupation for the next decade: Bring mesa to the screen, and then see if indeed mesa is working correctly, and integrate it in the syllable api.
But surprize, there are very bad chances this to happen, because for that you need to know the appserver, and there is hardly someone left in the so called "syllable team", who has good knowledge related to the appsever (Vanders is inactive for years, Arno is gone, Rick is gone, and Dee seems to be occupied with pyro).
So yes, you have a good occupation for the next decade.
One could wish hw acc. graphics drivers too, but indeed that's too much even if you are an optimist.

in short again:
if you have good news related to syllable development i'm happy to read it, but seeing that you come up that often with fake news, that are not really that much related to syllable, is somehow annoying, and seeing all the screenshots that are the same as in previous "syllable news".

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RE[5]: Comment by cipri
by Kaj-de-Vos on Fri 21st Dec 2012 00:07 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by cipri"
Kaj-de-Vos Member since:
2010-06-09

You're delusional. But of course, you want to be.

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RE[6]: Comment by cipri
by henderson101 on Fri 21st Dec 2012 12:01 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by cipri"
henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

You're delusional. But of course, you want to be.

*Someone* is delusional for sure. But I won't get in to a pissing contest with you. But, Kai, most of what Cipri is saying seems pretty on the nose to me. Not about promised features, but about fake news and lack of development of the core Desktop OS. And for the record, a port isn't a port if it doesn't actually work as intended. Mesa isn't ported to Syllable if it doesn't actually render graphics.

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RE[5]: Comment by cipri
by Vanders on Fri 21st Dec 2012 11:14 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by cipri"
Vanders Member since:
2005-07-06

Well, wifi was not only discussed it was intended in 2007 as a x-mas present for 2008, or something like that.

Let me state absolutely categorically: it was not, and I never made any such "promise" or even vague hints.

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RE[6]: Comment by cipri
by cipri on Fri 21st Dec 2012 14:12 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by cipri"
cipri Member since:
2007-02-15

it was not, and I never made any such "promise" or even vague hints.


Well, i did a quick search. And didnt find a firm promise, but a vague hint i found in the mailing list:

From: Kristian Van Der Vliet <vanders@li...> - 2007-01-01 12:55
"
My crystal ball is hazy as I look into 2007, but hopefully we'll see:
o WiFi support.
"

As far as I remember there was a more promising state for beginning of 2008 but didnt find it, i found just a post from myself from july 2007, where i was saying that "in vanders opinion we will have support for wifi at beginning of 2008".
But the problem is, that the old syllable forum broke the new one has just the forum posts starting with september 2008. So I can not search for the reasons i made that statement in july 2007.

So far, this quick search could not prove my statement, but i guess a "vague hint" i could provide.

In the mailing list i found something else that is cute:
From: Kristian Van Der Vliet <vanders@li...> - 2005-12-31 14:22

At the start of 2005, some of you may recall that I made a New Years Resolution. I said that I would be using Syllable full time, as my primary Operating System, by the end of the year. Sadly, I havn't quite managed it.
......
However, I am confident that I'll be able to make the switch within the next few months.


It seems that all the rumor related to new years resolutions is true :-))

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