Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 2nd Jan 2013 19:05 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Expected, but still insanely cool: Canonical has just announced Ubuntu for phones. This is a new mobile phone operating system, with its own user interface and development platform. It's built around Qt5 and QML, and the interface reminds me of MeeGo on the N9. It's supposed to be on the shelves in early 2014, but the developer preview is out today.
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RE[2]: I want one!
by bassbeast on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 08:25 UTC in reply to "RE: I want one!"
bassbeast
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2007-11-11

But lets be honest folks...how many think this or Mozilla OS has a snowball's chance in hell? show of hands? You have a market that is too crowded as it is and is now pretty much owned by two companies, Google and Apple. Even with all their money MSFT can't get their foot in the door, what makes anybody think a company with serious money issues like Canonical has a snowball's chance?

I know if I were running a company making hardware and saw how Canonical has been reduced to begging on their download page and sticking Amazon ads which are not only highly inappropriate (thanks to amazon having lousy adult filters) but which also may be illegal since you are supposed to be over the age of 18 to use Amazon and Canonical doesn't force the user to click on a EULA before first install or upgrade? I would be seriously leery of using their OS, and why should I even think about it? I can get Android for free, do what I want with it, and its already got the apps.

The problem with getting into a market this late in the cycle is the classic catch-22, people aren't gonna want to use an OS that doesn't have the apps and the app devs aren't gonna want to waste limited resources porting to a platform that doesn't have the people. Since the majority of popular apps are NOT FOSS this means you can't just have the community do the porting which means you are at the mercy of the app devs. MSFT has the money to outright pay for the devs to port so they aren't risking anything, Canonical simply doesn't have the funds to do that so I have a feeling its gonna be a non starter.

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RE[3]: I want one!
by brion on Thu 3rd Jan 2013 20:30 in reply to "RE[2]: I want one!"
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2010-11-04

Mozilla at least has actual hardware partners and scheduled releases in a couple countries... but they're explicitly going for the low-end market.

Canonical hasn't shown yet that they can get *any* market; they still have no takers for "Ubuntu for Android" and this project too has no hardware partners yet.

Maybe it can get momentum as an aftermarket hobbyist OS... but I still haven't actually seen any product out of their *last* mobile OS announcement, so I'm not holding my breath.

I'll probably be more generous when there's something you can flash onto an actual phone and use it.

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RE[4]: I want one!
by bassbeast on Fri 4th Jan 2013 15:17 in reply to "RE[3]: I want one!"
bassbeast Member since:
2007-11-11

But what do they offer that Android don't? With desktops at least you had MSFT charging insane prices to the OEMs so you could undercut the competition..but Google is giving Android for free, so what EXACTLY can they offer? heck Google hasn't even forced the OEMs not to use the 2.x branch which frankly will run on just about any chip being made, so what is the appeal?

Don't get me wrong Ubuntu or Mozilla fanbois, i have NOTHING against either company, I really don't. But as a retailer i have to see a selling point in a product before even thinking about it and unless you actually give a care about "free as in freedom" which 99% of the population don't as evidenced by Apple being the richest company of the planet there just isn't a real selling point here.

With Android you have all the apps and multiple devices made by multiple companies at ALL price points, from $50 tablets up to units costing over $600 with top of the line hardware and features, with Apple you have the resale value, you have the "I'm hip and trendy" keeping up with the Joneses thing, but what does Canonical or Mozilla bring that the masses will care about? they don't have the apps, they can't undercut Android since its already free, I just don't see a selling point here.

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