Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 22nd Jan 2013 21:28 UTC, submitted by lemur2
Linux "If you consider NetApplications' data set, then Linux owns only about 1 percent of the desktop OS market and Windows has almost 92 percent. But if you consider all computing platforms, including mobile, than Windows has only 20 percent and Linux has 42 percent - and that would be in the form of Google's Android alone." No more or less legitimate than claiming Windows owns 92% of the market. It's all a matter of perspective.
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RE[6]: Marketshare
by unclefester on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 08:02 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Marketshare"
unclefester
Member since:
2007-01-13

I had a look. The Pioneer laptop seems to be extremely poor value at the current price of AUD600 (including GST).

You can readily buy a high quality (Acer, Asus, Toshiba, HP etc) Windows 7/8 model with much better hardware for equal or less money from a number of Australian retailers eg Officeworks, JB HiFi or Dick Smith.

My Acer V3-571G absolutely shits on the Pioneer hardware wise. It was cheaper and came with Windows 7 and Office preinstalled. It also has excellent Linux support.

ps I use Linux and Windows.

Edited 2013-01-23 08:11 UTC

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RE[7]: Marketshare
by lemur2 on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 08:25 in reply to "RE[6]: Marketshare"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

I had a look. The Pioneer laptop seems to be extremely poor value at the current price of AUD600 (including GST).

You can readily buy a high quality (Acer, Asus, Toshiba, HP etc) Windows 7/8 model with much better hardware for equal or less money from a number of Australian retailers eg Officeworks, JB HiFi or Dick Smith.

My Acer V3-571G absolutely shits on the Pioneer hardware wise. It was cheaper and came with Windows 7 and Office preinstalled. It also has excellent Linux support.

ps I use Linux and Windows.


I am not touting the Pioneer laptop per se ... I am using this site to demonstrate the cost of Windows. A lot of people seem to think that because it comes pre-installed that Windows is free. It simply isn't.

If one could avoid the Windows tax that retailers such as Officeworks, JB HiFi or Dick Smith force upon you and buy from them the Acer V3-571G laptop with a blank hard disk (and say a free Linux LiveDVD), I am sure that it would be a wonderful value-for-money purchase. Since you can't buy it like that, it simply isn't.

Edited 2013-01-23 08:40 UTC

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RE[8]: Marketshare
by unclefester on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 08:50 in reply to "RE[7]: Marketshare"
unclefester Member since:
2007-01-13

The real point is that the is Windows "tax" is absolutely minsicule unless you buy a retail version of Windows. I would probably be only saving $10 if the actual licence cost was subtracted from the purchase price.

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RE[7]: Marketshare
by Lennie on Wed 23rd Jan 2013 12:03 in reply to "RE[6]: Marketshare"
Lennie Member since:
2007-09-22

I actually have installed Ubuntu on my ARM Chromebook it costs US $249, it does everything most people need from a small laptop.

The video driver for 3D acceleration, Flash and suspend isn't there yet but I'm sure it will. And the installation procedure and information how to do it is still a bit scattered around the web.

But these are the only problems.

The Acer C7 Chromebook which has a Sandy Bridge Celeron chip is only $199. Maybe the batterylife is a bit short though, only 4 hours.

The performance is even slightly better as the ARM Chromebook I'm using. A Linux distribution should be fine on these devices. And I think hardware support for the Intel-based Chromebook will probably be better than the ARM-based one.

Here is a review:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6476/acer-c7-chromebook-review/5

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