Linked by boldingd on Tue 29th Jan 2013 23:12 UTC
Games It seems to have so far escaped OSNews' notice (if the top few hits for a site-search for 'Steam' is any indication) that Steam for Linux is now in Open Beta; you can get the Linux steam client from steampowered.com. So far, they appear to only be making an Ubuntu .deb available, and the client will require closed-source GPU drivers in order to work.
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RE: Comment by Darkmage
by WereCatf on Wed 30th Jan 2013 05:37 UTC in reply to "Comment by Darkmage"
WereCatf
Member since:
2006-02-15

there is now OpenGL 3.0 shipping on ALL Intel/ATI/NVIDIA cards in Open source drivers.


While in the meantime the closed-source drivers ship OpenGL 4.3.

The NVIDIA cards for instance have implemented 90% of all card functions across the cards in the last 4 hardware generations.


Hardly. Even Nouveau's own wiki still paints a lot of red: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix

I expect within 2 years the open source Nvidia support will have overtaken the closed drivers.


Naive.

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RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage
by Spiron on Wed 30th Jan 2013 07:38 in reply to "RE: Comment by Darkmage"
Spiron Member since:
2011-03-08

Take another look. The majority of the newer cards have most of their features implemented or in progress, with only Video Decoding, TV output, Video input and SLI not implement for NV50 and NVC0 cards series. the main one with the redblocks are the absolute newest cards series.

Read into the details and you would avoid this sort of a mess

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RE[3]: Comment by Darkmage
by lucas_maximus on Wed 30th Jan 2013 12:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

All the kinda things you want from a premium graphics card. Nvidia's Linux/Solaris/FreeBSD drivers have been far better than Open Equivalents for 3D for ages, especially in terms of performance.

I use Nouveau on Fedora because I do my gaming in Windows and it is fine for desktop stuff, but I wouldn't want to play any Triple A games on it.

Titles like Crysis 2 and FarCry 3 pretty much take any system resources you got (I have a GeForce 660 GTX card and one of the better Core 2 duo chips, and it uses anything it can grab).

Crysis 3 gets launched next month and I am pretty sure I will have to over-clock the CPU.

Edited 2013-01-30 12:50 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage
by 0brad0 on Wed 30th Jan 2013 09:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by Darkmage"
0brad0 Member since:
2007-05-05

"there is now OpenGL 3.0 shipping on ALL Intel/ATI/NVIDIA cards in Open source drivers.


While in the meantime the closed-source drivers ship OpenGL 4.3.
"

I couldn't care less as long as they're closed-source binary blobs.

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RE[3]: Comment by Darkmage
by lucas_maximus on Thu 31st Jan 2013 11:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

No new games for you then.

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RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage
by edwintorok on Wed 30th Jan 2013 20:55 in reply to "RE: Comment by Darkmage"
edwintorok Member since:
2009-11-01

there is now OpenGL 3.0 shipping on ALL Intel/ATI/NVIDIA cards in Open source drivers.


And in the next version they'll probably support 3.1, the radeon driver already has it in Mesa git:

OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV730
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 9.1-devel (git-0642437)
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 1.40
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile extensions:
OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 9.1-devel (git-0642437)
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30

(Note that you need a new glxinfo to show anything above 3.0 for these drivers as they only support >3.0 when requesting a Core Profile).


"The NVIDIA cards for instance have implemented 90% of all card functions across the cards in the last 4 hardware generations.


Hardly. Even Nouveau's own wiki still paints a lot of red: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix
"

Radeon has more features implemented: http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature

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RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage
by Valhalla on Thu 31st Jan 2013 01:00 in reply to "RE: Comment by Darkmage"
Valhalla Member since:
2006-01-24


Hardly. Even Nouveau's own wiki still paints a lot of red: http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix

Well, if you would have looked a year ago there would have been alot more red which has now turned into orange/yellow/green.

Naive.

I don't think that the open source drivers will have overtaken the proprietary ones but I'm certain that they will have decreased the gap further.

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RE[3]: Comment by Darkmage
by lucas_maximus on Thu 31st Jan 2013 11:16 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Darkmage"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

I don't think that the open source drivers will have overtaken the proprietary ones but I'm certain that they will have decreased the gap further.


Not with the latest cards. While some games that are 4 or 5 years old will probably run okay on lower end hardware you just miss out on performance on the faster cards. My 8800GT while very good when I bought struggled with modern games, I had to upgrade to a 660GTX.

ATi cards while slightly cheaper and higher performing for some games have always had crap drivers. Nvidia closed drivers is the only one that gives me everything cross platform.

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