Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Feb 2013 18:18 UTC, submitted by twitterfire
Games Late last night, Sony unveiled the PlayStation 4 - sort of. It's got a custom 8-core AMD x86-64 processor, 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, and a custom Radeon-based graphics chip. It's also got additional chips to offload specific tasks like video (de)compression (livestreaming is built-in!), and there's a large focus on streaming games, but most of it is "an ultimate goal" instead of a definitive feature. It won't play PS3 discs (but will eventually stream many PS3 games), and, while there's some weaselwording involved, second hand games are safe. The biggest surprise? The console itself wasn't shown because it's not done yet. No joke. No price, no release date (other than somewhere before the holidays).
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RE[2]: Not impressive
by lucas_maximus on Thu 21st Feb 2013 19:57 UTC in reply to "RE: Not impressive"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

The PS4 is a x86-64 PC with some custom kit. This isn't much more powerful on paper than my current Workstation at work.

Sorry this just isn't that impressive.

Edited 2013-02-21 19:58 UTC

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RE[3]: Not impressive
by twitterfire on Thu 21st Feb 2013 20:21 in reply to "RE[2]: Not impressive"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

The PS4 is a x86-64 PC with some custom kit. This isn't much more powerful on paper than my current Workstation at work.

Sorry this just isn't that impressive.

I can see a difference. Both Athlon 64 2800+ and 8 core Xeon E5-4650 are X86-64, after all.

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RE[4]: Not impressive
by lucas_maximus on Thu 21st Feb 2013 20:23 in reply to "RE[3]: Not impressive"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

??

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RE[3]: Not impressive
by JAlexoid on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 02:50 in reply to "RE[2]: Not impressive"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Come back when your desktop comes with a low level graphics API and GDDR5 as main memory.
("2 Gbit GDDR5 memory chips will enable graphics cards with 2 GiB or more of onboard memory with 224 GB/s or higher peak bandwidth." - Wikipedia)

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RE[3]: Not impressive
by cyrilleberger on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 05:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Not impressive"
cyrilleberger Member since:
2006-02-01

The PS4 is a x86-64 PC with some custom kit. This isn't much more powerful on paper than my current Workstation at work.

Sorry this just isn't that impressive.


So to be impressive you have to have expensive weird hardware that no one knows how to program ? Sony has understood its lessons with the PS3, make it easy to develop games, x86-PC are difficult to beat in that area, since that is what most people are most familiar with.

The PS4 is all about services, Sony wants it to be the central place in your living room, the hub to all your entertainment, it is not just about gaming anymore. That is why we didn't get to see the hardware, the hardware is not important, the services are, the hardware is just an access point to the services. And for this strategy to win, the hardware has to be cheap enough to sell many. And with the current performance and price of X86-PC, they get exactly that.

And they still go for selling their own hardware, because it give them vendor-locking. Once you buy a PS4, you can't have anything but Sony services.

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RE[4]: Not impressive
by lucas_maximus on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 12:06 in reply to "RE[3]: Not impressive"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

If it isn't about specs why release them ;-).

TBH, I have a ps3 and use it for all the extras (netflix etc).

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RE[3]: Not impressive
by bert64 on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 09:13 in reply to "RE[2]: Not impressive"
bert64 Member since:
2007-04-23

It's also a fixed hardware configuration, so developers can program the hardware directly without any intermediate abstraction layers, so just like the original xbox it will perform considerably better than an identically specced computer.

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RE[4]: Not impressive
by lucas_maximus on Fri 22nd Feb 2013 12:07 in reply to "RE[3]: Not impressive"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

We always here this and within a year the PC has better graphics again.

Consoles are great (I have own most of them all at one point or another), but their selling point isn't about being cutting edge.

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