Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Feb 2013 14:15 UTC
OSNews, Generic OSes "LG said today it was acquiring WebOS from Hewlett-Packard, with the intention to use the operating system not for its mobile phones, but in its smart televisions. With the deal, LG obtains the source code for WebOS, related documentation, engineering talent, and related WebOS Web sites. LG also gets HP licenses for use with its WebOS products, and patents HP obtained from Palm. The financial terms of the deal weren't disclosed." Completely and utterly pointless. Smart TVs are a dead end. The TV should just remain a dumb receiver for input - whether from a computer or console via cables, or wirelessly from a smartphone or tablet. Our phones and tablets are already smart so TVs don't have to be.
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RE: Disagree with you here Thom
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 25th Feb 2013 15:22 UTC in reply to "Disagree with you here Thom"
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Nothing you just said requires a smart TV. All we need is an open, cheap standard for wireless AV as an equivalent to HDMI.

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avgalen Member since:

Scenario: I have a USB Disk with some movies or images on it. How would you prefer to play this?

1) Plug the USB Disk into the Smart TV, Start the file-explorer/movie-app/picture-app, Play
2) Find my laptop/tablet/phone, somehow make the movies/images appear on that Smart device, somehow broadcast it to the Dumb TV, then leave that Smart device running all the time and hope it doesn't run out of battery

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:

What will happen in 3-4 years with a smart tv..

1) Try to plug in usb disk into 3-4 year old smart tv... Dang it doesn't support usb 4.0 devices
2) find adapter cable, plug it in.
3) Dang, smart tv doesn't support this new super codec.
4) Buy new smart tv($800) or converter box ($50) that has more intelligence than older smart tv.

You might have the same problems with a converter box,but you only paid $50 for it, and replacing it is incredibly more simple than swapping out your tv.

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moondevil Member since:

I think the favorite manufactures scenario is:

3) Plug the Branded SmartTV Disk into the Smart TV, Start the file-explorer/movie-app/picture-app, Play

With the added benefict that it will be supported through out the Smart TV lifetime. ;)

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Alfman Member since:

It can be wireless or wired, but the problem with the TV as a dumb reception device is that you'll need another separate device to drive it.

I have a couple problems with this model:

1. I have to waste a model device (say a tablet) in order to have the TV echo the screen.

2. I might want to use multiple portable devices to interact with the same television simultaneously in modes where it doesn't make sense to designate any as a video master. The TVs video might not be a direct copy of any single mobile device.

3. The smart TV might have hookups that are unavailable or impractical to establish on a mobile device. This makes for clumsy integration on the mobile platform.

4. On top of my simple earlier use case, there's much more opportunity for innovation on smart tvs. They might technically be implementable using smart devices connected to dumb TVs, but you'll have to admit that some people would prefer an integrated solution such that there's no need for separate external devices. Ideally the computer portion of a smart TV could exist in an upgradable slot, which is brand agnostic, but I already know this is wishful thinking.

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swift11 Member since:

The cost of a chip is a very small part of the total cost, so all TVs will be smart.
And: no need for ultra-low power chips in TVs.

Adding a codec to a smart TV is rather simple imo;

Samsung has an "evolution kit": you simply buy a new one after a few years.

Edited 2013-02-25 16:44 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:

Also there are "Smart Devices".

Set-top boxes, Blu-ray players etc can offer a traditional TV the SMART functionality much like consoles are today.

I think it would be great to have skype running on my TV. Or being able to use a tablet as an input device and seeing my tweets/skype convo being shown on the tv as well as responses while live events are being viewed.

I have just starting working with Smart TV like devices. There are a lot of possibilities for some very cool things.

I think there is a serious lack of imagination from Thom and some of the other posters. Pretty much every developer in our team is quite exciting by some of the really cool stuff we can build.

The sky really is the limit.

Edited 2013-02-26 20:35 UTC

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lucas_maximus Member since:

Also I didn't mention that there is voice and movement recognition.

But hey you can't see a use for it doesn't mean there isn't.

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terrakotta Member since:

The protocol doesn't have to be wireless specific. You can hook up the TV to a router using UTP and have your phone connect to it via wifi over your LAN. I can see the point in having the TV be a layer 2 switch, with maybe some USB ports and other connectors (power over ethernet device or what not), heck, even give it one or more cameras and/or a microphone. These things do not age as fast as silicon-smart. An expensive phone now is cheaper and easier to control (remote controls still aren't that great) than the surpluss one has to pay for making the TV smart.

Edited 2013-02-25 18:50 UTC

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