Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 16:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Soulbender on Sat 9th Mar 2013 03:29 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

It should also be noted that people would respond more warmly if Canonical had previously demonstrated the chops to do a massive infrastructure project such as this.


I'd say Launchpad is pretty big and Landscape isn't exactly small.
Anyway, there always has to be a first large project, you don't get a lot of them under your belt by magic.

It's funny, on one hand people complain that Canonical don't contribute enough and create enough innovative projects.
On the other hand people complain about their new and innovative projects.

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by _txf_ on Sat 9th Mar 2013 03:47 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
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2008-03-17

I'd say Launchpad is pretty big and Landscape isn't exactly small.
Anyway, there always has to be a first large project, you don't get a lot of them under your belt by magic.

This is much more low level than any of their other projects.

It's funny, on one hand people complain that Canonical don't contribute enough and create enough innovative projects.
On the other hand people complain about their new and innovative projects.

It is new, but I wouldn't say it is innovative. People were fairly interested in their phone and tablet project because it is different to anything else out there. This is called reinventing the wheel.

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by Soulbender on Sat 9th Mar 2013 03:52 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

This is much more low level than any of their other projects.


Who cares? It doesn't matter. It either works out or not and if it doesn't it's only Canonical's loss.
If it works out we get an improved graphics stack.
I really don't see why people are bitching about this.

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by Lunitik on Sat 9th Mar 2013 04:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
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2005-08-07

Seriously, you are looking at Xorg and deciding Mir is something big and important.

It is more like a Compiz or Beryl sitting atop the kernel. The stack is just moving down a level...

The project scope is something more like usplash, just with multi-display config, and form factor config (because they have 3 form factors for one interface)

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RE[3]: Comment by Nelson
by Lunitik on Sat 9th Mar 2013 04:28 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Nelson"
Lunitik Member since:
2005-08-07

Canonical still isn't contributing, they are duplicating effort because they feel others aren't going in the right direction - they want to steer the ship instead of Red Hat, the relationship is far too much about competition between each other, they should be working more closely.

The thing is, Red Hat has always pushed Linux in the server space, and guess where Linux is actually successful?

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RE[4]: Comment by Nelson
by SeeM on Sat 9th Mar 2013 11:31 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Nelson"
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2011-09-10

Canonical still isn't contributing, they are duplicating effort because they feel others aren't going in the right direction - they want to steer the ship instead of Red Hat, the relationship is far too much about competition between each other, they should be working more closely.


No way! There always been competition in Linux world. Vim and Emacs, Gnome and KDE, Mandrake and Red Hat, Sendmail and Postfix. They're duplicating efforts all along and that's a good thing.

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