Shuttleworth: 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is "dumb"
Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 8th Mar 2013 16:13 UTC
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Mark Shuttleworth: "I simply have zero interest in the crowd who wants to be different. Leet. 'Linux is supposed to be hard so it's exclusive' is just the dumbest thing that a smart person could say." He's right. Lots of interesting insights in this blog post - I may not agree with everything Ubuntu does, but at least it's doing something.
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RE[12]: Comment by Laurence
by lucas_maximus on Mon 11th Mar 2013 15:55 UTC in reply to "RE[11]: Comment by Laurence"
lucas_maximus
Member since:
2009-08-18

No, it's a natural argument to speculate. My issue is how you keep touting your assumptions as fact.


No I don't. I call it as I see it from experience. I could be wrong. I don't really care it is an internet message board.

The same things have plagued desktop Linux for the past ten years and nothing has changed. In fact I think it has got worse in some respects.

Don't even both with that bullshit. You're not in possession of all the facts as events haven't even started to play themselves out yet. So while your point of view might be a logical assumption (after all, I did raise the same concerns), it's still far too early to make an informed prediction. Thus you are jumping to conclusions.

The difference between you and the others is that everyone else at least had the maturity to say their conclusion was speculative; however you seem to think that anything you dream up is an absolute fact - even if your statement is years off actually happening.


Of course it is speculation ... it is an internet message board.

And this is why there's so many f--king arguments on sites like these. People are unwilling to ever make a reasonable argument. It's always one extreme point of view, or the complete polar opposite. And then those instigators get all pissy when people don't agree with their absurd extremism.


There so many arguments because unless you love linux the linux hoard will descend upon you.

So can I. I'm a huge Linux critic. I'm also a huge Linux fan. I can do this thing called "seeing things from all perspectives and not seeing things as one extreme or another"

And I resent the implication that I'm a fanboy given I was the one who kicked off the complaints about Linux in this topic.


Boo-hoo.

Linus isn't really too bad in my opinion. I think he's more pragmatic than some. It's RMS who I wish would just shut the hell up (don't get me wrong, I admire his vision. But I don't think his constant outbursts are at all helpful these days).


RMS is a waste of space, but telling nvidia to fuck themselves and being generally rude to companies that work with him isn't helpful either. He only gets away with it because he can.

Linus doesn't lead by example, other software projects tend to take his attitude and it is hurtful.

[/q] It was a question, not a statement. You can tell because it's postfixed with a question mark rather than a period/full stop. [/q]

No it wasn't really a question by the way you asked it. Don't pull that bullshit with me.

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RE[13]: Comment by Laurence
by Laurence on Mon 11th Mar 2013 16:34 in reply to "RE[12]: Comment by Laurence"
Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

...it is an internet message board...

...it is an internet message board...

...it is an internet message board...

Right. So basically you're being rude and extremist because this is a message board and thus it's ok to make dumb statements. And because it's a message board you're also allowed to demonstrate these traits while hypocritically accusing others of it.


There so many arguments because unless you love linux the linux hoard will descend upon you.

There's people on here who don't like Linux who were still disagreeing with your comments.


Boo-hoo.

Real mature.

No it wasn't really a question by the way you asked it. Don't pull that bullshit with me.

Of course it was a question. Have you never heard of the difference between open and closed-ended questions? Just because it was targeted, it doesn't mean it was rhetoric.


Honestly though, I really think we should just give up before we both start acting like (even bigger) idiots.

Edited 2013-03-11 16:37 UTC

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RE[14]: Comment by Laurence
by lucas_maximus on Mon 11th Mar 2013 20:05 in reply to "RE[13]: Comment by Laurence"
lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

Right. So basically you're being rude and extremist because this is a message board and thus it's ok to make dumb statements. And because it's a message board you're also allowed to demonstrate these traits while hypocritically accusing others of it.


Dumb statements when, my first response was Linux has problems because of X, Y and Z on the Desktop. I only started name calling when you made it personal.

Of course it was a question. Have you never heard of the difference between open and closed-ended questions? Just because it was targeted, it doesn't mean it was rhetoric.


It was a loaded and you know it.

Edited 2013-03-11 20:05 UTC

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