Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Mar 2013 09:50 UTC
Legal Nokia has gotten an injunction against HTC in Germany over a patent on a power-saving feature in Qualcomm chips (?!). Nokia's response illustrates why the company started its recent patent offensive: "Nokia is pleased with this decision, which confirms the quality of Nokia's patent portfolio." If nobody buys your phones and your business is failing spectacularly, you have to promote something else of value to paint yourself as an interesting acquisition target. Patents it is, then. If you can't compete, litigate. Update: HTC's statement is pretty damning.
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Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Tue 19th Mar 2013 13:48 UTC
Nelson
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2005-11-29

It is very much about the money for Nokia. At this point, anything they can do to extent their shelf life is a good move. I'm 100% certain that Nokia would rather settle with HTC and get paid than enforce exclusion orders. There will be damages though, so its a consolation prize.

However these trials don't happen in two days. The wheels for this has been set in motion since before the new Lumia range was even released. Hell, Nokia's first phones would barely have had time to make an appreciable market impact (failure or otherwise) before Nokia might've been considering targeting HTC.

I don't think this patent is particularly dangerous because as HTC rightfully claims, it is an easy design around. Just take the battery hit.

Still, Nokia's patent portfolio is extremely diverse and powerful. I wouldn't be surprised if Nokia and HTC announce a licensing partnership in the near future. They have sunk billions into R&D in a ton of areas over the years, which isn't to be downplayed.

Also, the double dipping comparison isn't the same. Nokia isn't saying that Qualcomm has a license, they're saying that Qualcomm infringes, but going after HTC which is equally liable.

Just like how companies like Apple and Microsoft find Android to infringe but generally go after the OEMs.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by Deviate_X on Tue 19th Mar 2013 14:08 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
Deviate_X Member since:
2005-07-11

Nonsense, every one has to assert their patents because everyone else is asserting there patents. This is simply path of the process ... a consequences of Apple-Google becoming leaders in the field.

Incidentally - don't imagine HTC or any other company are innocent imagining ..."we won't be infringing on Nokia patents", Nokia has been in business for 100+ years! These court proceedings are simply the end result of ego, gambling and failure negotiate properly!

Edited 2013-03-19 14:11 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Tue 19th Mar 2013 14:10 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I'm not sure how what I said is nonsense, or how what you said runs contrary to what I said, but feel free to elaborate.

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RE: Comment by Nelson
by Soulbender on Wed 20th Mar 2013 04:32 in reply to "Comment by Nelson"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Nokia isn't saying that Qualcomm has a license, they're saying that Qualcomm infringes, but going after HTC which is equally liable.


This pretty much sums up what's wrong with the current patent legal system. Actor X can be sued by Actor Y for an infringement by Actor Z simply because Actor X happened to use a product made by Z.
It's even worse since this apparently also applies to regular consumers (personal as well as corporate) so I could be sued by Sony for an infringement in a Samsung product that own. How in the hell can consumers be expected to understand and be aware of these things? It's like someone went "Hey, you know those protection rackets the mafia runs? How can we make that legal and available to companies?".

This is wrongheaded beyond belief.

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RE[2]: Comment by Nelson
by Nelson on Thu 21st Mar 2013 21:05 in reply to "RE: Comment by Nelson"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

I agree. I think you hit the nail right on the head and it is a potential avenue for abuse. However such things also exists in other corners of all types of law.

Its usually up to the Judge to decide what is frivolous and what is actually consistent with the spirit of the law, and there's been evidence that it goes on during patent trials. Sometimes patent assertions will go from 30 to something like 5, or they'll just be dismissed with prejudice outright. From that POV, I think its hard to argue that abuses in the law are actually occurring to such an extent.

HTC isn't a Mom & Pop store. They're also easier to sue, they directly sell the infringing product which makes it easier to argue for damages.

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