Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Mar 2013 23:16 UTC
Google This. This is what we need. These are the kind of steps from which we all benefit. Google has just announced the Open Patent Non-Assertion Pledge: the company promises not to sue any users, distributors, or developers of open source products based on the patents it owns (unless first attacked).
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RE[2]: Hyperbole
by bassbeast on Sat 30th Mar 2013 10:08 UTC in reply to "RE: Hyperbole"
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Its all moot anyway, Apple is gonna ram through DRM into the HTML spec and MPEG-LA is gonna patent troll the living hell out of anybody that doesn't pay their license fees. MPEG-LA has so many patents there pretty much isn't any way other than bandwidth sucking raw video or MPEG-1 (Which IIRC recently fell out of patents) to do squat on the web with video without violating MPEG-LA patents and as Moz found out they don't play well with others.

Nice gesture Google but unless you are willing to buy out MPEG-LA I have a feeling within 3 years its gonna be a 2 way race, 3 way if Google uses the TiVo trick to lock down Android, otherwise it'll be Apple on the high end and MSFT scraping by on the scraps.

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RE[3]: Hyperbole
by Vanders on Sat 30th Mar 2013 10:19 in reply to "RE[2]: Hyperbole"
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Nice gesture Google but unless you are willing to buy out MPEG-LA

Did you not read the terms of the agreement between Google & MPEG-LA?

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RE[4]: Hyperbole
by bassbeast on Sun 31st Mar 2013 03:10 in reply to "RE[3]: Hyperbole"
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Uhh...MPEG-LA has already said VERY plainly that "There will be NO downstream agreements" which is exactly why Mozilla wasn't able to just buy the right to use H.264 in their browser, because they would have had to either pack it as a separate download or made a non GPL compatible license for their H.264 version.

Believe me, even though I prefer Windows on my desktop and laptop i do NOT think the web should be proprietary just on common sense grounds. i mean look at how bad things were with "This site is designed for IE" making the web a mess, allowing the web to be locked down with paywalls and DRM is just...its a bad idea. I mean would Android have even come to be if all video required IE or Safari? probably not.

Believe me Vanders i do NOT think this is in any way a good thing but sadly as we have seen Apple has become a nastier 800 pound gorilla than MSFT, see how they rammed through H.264 instead of WebM or Vorbis for an example, to see why I think this is inevitable. Does Google have money? Yes but how many senators use iPhone?

They WILL end up getting this through and MPEG-LA isn't gonna make a GPL compatible version, not to mention I don't see how one could even MAKE a GPL compatible DRM since the whole point of GPL is to give the rights to the user and DRM to take it away, and lets face it no video, no stupid FB games? The consumers just won't buy it. So either Google does the "TiVo Trick" which since they have made GPL V3 verbotten is possible, or they won't have video because they won't have the DRM.

This is the first time since I got my first PC in 1981 that I don't think the future is gonna be better than before. Sadly I don't see any way around it, all the major companies want that iMoney which they think means locked down OSes and appstores, see how many billions that MSFT has thrown away trying to force a cellphone UI onto Windows 8, but if they get their way? Its gonna be locked down game consoles all the way down, you won't be able to fix or upgrade, the corps can force you to buy new just by no longer supporting your device, its gonna suck for everyone but the shareholders.

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