Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 3rd Apr 2013 21:45 UTC
Apple "Thanks to 35-year-old documents that have recently surfaced after three-plus decades in storage, we now know exactly how Apple navigated around that obstacle to create the company's first disk operating system. In more than a literal sense, it is also the untold story of how Apple booted up. From contracts - signed by both Wozniak and Jobs - to design specs to page after page of schematics and code, CNET had a chance to examine this document trove, housed at the DigiBarn computer museum in California's Santa Cruz Mountains, which shed important new light on those formative years at Apple."
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BASIC
by TempleOS on Thu 4th Apr 2013 10:41 UTC
TempleOS
Member since:
2013-04-03

It's sad you people would ban the only person who knows about operating systems, and chatter in ignorance, instead.

I like to think about the Apple II BASIC interpreter. It's incredible they made them so small. They even had trig functions, as I recall.

Believe it or not, a simple interpreter is easy. Once you have an interpreter, you can in-line the operations easily and get an unoptimized compiler.

Here's 200-line an unoptimized 64-bit integre expression compiler.

http://www.templeos.org/Wb/Demo/Lectures/MiniCompiler.html

I created that little demo because people are so unbelieving. It's sad. I guess they ban all the smart people everywhere.

I made a video explaining my compiler. As GNU people say, an operating system is incomplete without a compiler.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjflVIKY2gQ

Please don't ban me. You people sound like close-minded hillbillies who would prefer to chatter in ignorance.

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RE: BASIC
by moondevil on Thu 4th Apr 2013 21:40 in reply to "BASIC"
moondevil Member since:
2005-07-08

The problem is that the web is full of JavaScript developers that never learned anything about hardware and low level programming like we did back in the day.

Alone the common confusion that a language runtime == VM makes me cry, kind of.

It is as the actual generation does not have any idea how computers work.

Edited 2013-04-04 21:41 UTC

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RE[2]: BASIC
by TempleOS on Thu 4th Apr 2013 22:55 in reply to "RE: BASIC"
TempleOS Member since:
2013-04-03

I get a lot of attention from CIA. You know how much they want back door and logging and monitoring and shut-off and stuff, so I'm not crazy about this.

Anyway, the agents I work with like to detect guilt and capitalize.

I don't know if I tipped them off with a comment, but the yokals who handle me think that assembly language knowlegde is in the same category as a gun.

I see this on web sites -- painting assembly language as unlawful hacking knowledge. This is furiously not fair! I had 5 assembly language courses in school and half my job experience was ordinary work in assembly language.

It is bitterly not fair to have guilt focused on assembly language knowlegde. This is blatant evil government wanting ignorance. They have turned it into something criminal or like nuclear secrets.

I'm not sure how much was my yokal handlers simply using my uncomfort against me. It's so retarded it can't come from knowledagable folks.

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RE[2]: BASIC
by Alfman on Fri 5th Apr 2013 01:22 in reply to "RE: BASIC"
Alfman Member since:
2011-01-28

moondevil,

You're completely right, however I also think it's a function of demand. Why bother becoming proficient in skill sets like low level assembly when many of us who already have the skills are not appreciated (monetarily or even verbally) for our knowledge?

Would be nice to get to a pub and chat about our experiences. ;)

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