Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Apr 2013 10:34 UTC
Legal After Microsoft's extortion racket has failed to stop Android, and after Oracle's crazy baseless lawsuit failed to stop Android, and after Nokia adopting Windows Phone failed to stop Android, Microsoft, Nokia, and Oracle are now grasping the next straw in their fruitless efforts to stop Android: they've filed an antitrust complaint with the EU, claiming Google unfairly bundles applications with Android.
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IE bundled with Windows
by raboof on Wed 10th Apr 2013 11:48 UTC
raboof
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2005-07-24

What I find interesting is that no-one is making the comparison between this and the antitrust case against MS about bundling IE with MS Windows.

If I recall correctly, complaints were made to the EU that MS was abusing Windows' monopoly position by bundling IE with Windows, putting other browser producers at an unfair disadvantage. And they won.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/what-is-the-browser-choi...

People seemed to be pretty happy with that ruling (though I'm not sure what MS is doing about it nowadays). This one doesn't seem all that different.

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RE: IE bundled with Windows
by lemur2 on Wed 10th Apr 2013 12:04 in reply to "IE bundled with Windows"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

What I find interesting is that no-one is making the comparison between this and the antitrust case against MS about bundling IE with MS Windows.

If I recall correctly, complaints were made to the EU that MS was abusing Windows' monopoly position by bundling IE with Windows, putting other browser producers at an unfair disadvantage. And they won.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/windows/what-is-the-browser-choi...

People seemed to be pretty happy with that ruling (though I'm not sure what MS is doing about it nowadays). This one doesn't seem all that different.


With IE on Windows there were web-facing features like ActiveX which were strictly Windows-only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX

If a web service used ActiveX, as many chose to do, then they required anyone wishing to utilise that service to be running IE on Windows. Hence IE was an attempt (one of many by Microsoft) at consumer lock-in to Microsoft's Windows platform.

The Android OS has no similar characteristics whatsoever. There is absolutely no lock-in to any app at all. Unlike other smartphone OSes which one could name, Android is the exact opposite of a walled garden.

http://www.howtogeek.com/106175/the-top-5-alternatives-to-the-andro...

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lucas_maximus Member since:
2009-08-18

With IE on Windows there were web-facing features like ActiveX which were strictly Windows-only.


Nobody that developers modern websites require ActiveX, it is mainly used on bespoke intranet systems.

ActiveX is usually used for Browser plugins (Java and Flash).

If a web service used ActiveX, as many chose to do, then they required anyone wishing to utilise that service to be running IE on Windows. Hence IE was an attempt (one of many by Microsoft) at consumer lock-in to Microsoft's Windows platform.


The bolded statement is total bullshit. ActiveX is a client side tech not server side. You can expose a legacy ActiveX dll as a WebService but that no way ties you into IE.

Please don't tell lies.

The antitrust violation was that IE was bundled with Windows. In anycase, lets forget back at the time people actually wanted IE because it was better than netscape (IE4 was downloaded by a huge number of people on launch, which considering the speeds at the time is astounding).

Edited 2013-04-11 10:04 UTC

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