Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Apr 2013 16:37 UTC
Windows Microsoft's Terry Myerson, corporate vice president of Windows Phone, talks about the competition. "With iPhone, I sense that it's running out of steam. With iOS, [Apple] just added a fifth row of icons. Android is... kind of a mess. Look at Samsung - there's clearly mutiny going on. The only OEM making money off of Android is Samsung." There's truth to all these statements, which makes it all the more surprising that Microsoft appears to be unable to properly capitalise on them. Sure, WP appears to be doing well in a few select markets, but by no means the kind of success Microsoft and (Nokia) was banking on. Microsoft will pull through. Nokia on the other hand...
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RE: So what
by twitterfire on Tue 16th Apr 2013 17:22 UTC in reply to "So what"
twitterfire
Member since:
2008-09-11

With Windows 8 being such a hit, they should be very worried at Microsoft.


They just want to show us how poor the competition is doing and to think all is well @ Redmond.

I think Nokia spokespersons are still saying the company is doing pretty good...

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RE[2]: So what
by Nelson on Tue 16th Apr 2013 17:30 in reply to "RE: So what"
Nelson Member since:
2005-11-29

Windows 8 is selling. Its already sold tens of millions of copies. Soon hundreds of millions. I can't believe we still entertain this ridiculous notion that Windows 8 is somehow a dud.

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RE[3]: So what
by TechGeek on Tue 16th Apr 2013 17:36 in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
TechGeek Member since:
2006-01-14

When you are going to sell millions of copies no matter what, its hard to call it a dud. However, considering the feedback from a variety of sources, I wouldn't call Windows 8 a raging success.

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RE[3]: So what
by twitterfire on Tue 16th Apr 2013 17:37 in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
twitterfire Member since:
2008-09-11

I can't believe we still entertain this ridiculous notion that Windows 8 is somehow a dud.


You're right. Windows 8 is a big success like Vista was before it. And people love to have that tablet interface instead of their desktops.

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RE[3]: So what
by ze_jerkface on Tue 16th Apr 2013 23:50 in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
ze_jerkface Member since:
2012-06-22

Windows 7 would have sold tens of millions during the same period and they wouldn't have had to waste billions of dollars.

Windows 8 has poor reviews compared to 7 and is selling worse than Vista did during the same release period. It's a dud but if you want to play the denial game along with Ballmer then go ahead, you clearly have no shame when it comes to being a Microsoft apologist.

BTW I still haven't met a single .NET developer that has anything positive to say about Windows 8. But I'm sure you will write that off in your mind as not mattering just as Sinofsky did when we pointed out all the negative pre-polls.

The only reason Ballmer still has a job is because he can point to the billions of dollars that come in even though a monkey could run that company thanks to the market lock that Gates created. Oh well you probably have defense work to do here, I shouldn't take up your time.

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RE[3]: So what
by phoudoin on Wed 17th Apr 2013 09:54 in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
phoudoin Member since:
2006-06-09

Yeah, sure, as OEM pre-installed system on new hardware. Business as usual.

I know I'm one who have no choice but to pay indirectly for Windows 8 when I bought my latest laptop. Which I erase ~2 days after opening the box to replace it with a more poweruser friendly OS.

If I had a choice, no W8 sale.

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RE[3]: So what
by JAlexoid on Wed 17th Apr 2013 10:00 in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
JAlexoid Member since:
2009-05-19

Simple explanation. 10s of millions of copies for Windows is a failure. Not because the absolute number is small, but because it's Windows. There are a shitload of articles comparing the uptake of Vista, 7 and 8. Most of them come to a conclusion that 8 has lower uptake than Vista, which was acknowledged to be a dud by Microsoft.

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RE[3]: So what
by ricegf on Wed 17th Apr 2013 10:57 in reply to "RE[2]: So what"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

No less than the very respectable Dr. Dobbs journal stated yesterday that “it's now clear that Windows 8 is a fiasco”. Ouch.

http://www.drdobbs.com/windows/pulling-back-from-windows-8/24015304...

A few other quotes for you to explain away as "ridiculous":

"PC shipments dropped by 14% in the first quarter of this year...As IDC pointed out, it was the single biggest year-over-year drop since the company began tracking PC sales in 1994.

"Hidden in IDC's analysis was an unusual assertion; namely, that Windows 8 had not only not helped PC sales, but actually depressed them.

"When Win 8 came out, we bought a test machine with the new OS loaded on it, fairly confident that we'd need it for testing the inevitable batch of soon-to-arrive Metro apps. But these apps have not materialized... that Win8 test machine has been a long experiment in frustration. Microsoft's design decisions, both at the UI level and below, serve to continually get in our way... We shall shortly strip off Win8 and replace it Windows 7.

"Win8-specific apps have been a non-starter.

"the question is how fast Microsoft can fix their bet."

Pretty much matches my personal experience with the one Win 8 laptop we bought. Never again. Ug.

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