Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 16th Apr 2013 17:30 UTC
Google "The first Google-influenced Motorola phones will start to appear in the second half of 2013, Wicks said, and if you like smaller form-factor devices or stock Android, you're going to be excited." This is exactly what the market needs, to be honest. Stock Android phones straight from Google that aren't Nexus devices. Nexus devices are nice, but are available in a limited set of countries only, and the Nexus 4 is continuously out of stock. Hopefully Motorola will do a better job on the availability front.
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by Neolander on Wed 17th Apr 2013 15:49 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Re:"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

Very probably true, but maybe Google will say sdcards have to be formatted to ext4. Using the device as USB storage will allow some degree of file transfer and there could be a warning that directly using sdcards formatted by the device "will not be compatible with Windows. #dealwithit."

If I understand how the MTP file transfer protocol used by Android ICS and up works, a client computer never actually gets to see the filesystem on the SD card. It only uses a set of standard queries to probe it, while the phone's virtual filesystem does the actual work in the background.

Two advantages of this approach are that 1/both OSs are seemingly able to access the SD card at the same time and 2/the underlying FS doesn't matter, and a Windows computer should be able to access an Ext4-formatted SD card through an Android phone that supports both Ext4 and MTP.

Can someone who is more familiar with MTP than me confirm this?

Edited 2013-04-17 15:59 UTC

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by anevilyak on Wed 17th Apr 2013 16:02 in reply to "RE[4]: Re:"
anevilyak Member since:
2005-09-14

Your assessment is correct to my awareness, that's the big differentiator between MTP and the older USB Mass Storage protocol which was predicated on direct block-level access.

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by tonny on Thu 18th Apr 2013 06:04 in reply to "RE[5]: Re:"
tonny Member since:
2011-12-22

Unfortunately, my xperia mini pro with cyanogenmod 10.1 and MTP support doesn't supported on Linux, only windows. Try it several time, with no avail. So, my take is, you can only use MTP with windows OS. CMIIW.

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by Delgarde on Thu 18th Apr 2013 04:50 in reply to "RE[4]: Re:"
Delgarde Member since:
2008-08-19

If I understand how the MTP file transfer protocol used by Android ICS and up works, a client computer never actually gets to see the filesystem on the SD card.


Correct, but only true as long as the card remains in the phone. If you take it out and put it in your laptop or camera or USB card reader, the format on the card becomes relevant.

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by Neolander on Thu 18th Apr 2013 05:43 in reply to "RE[5]: Re:"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Correct, but only true as long as the card remains in the phone. If you take it out and put it in your laptop or camera or USB card reader, the format on the card becomes relevant.

Then again, considering how cumbersome handling MicroSD cards is, and how cost-effective pen drives get this day, I can't think of a use case where someone would want to do this.

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